Should the Catholic Church state that woman should not attend college?

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cynic:
Is that a valid choice though, to remain single so that you can pursue a career? I didn’t think such a choice would be looked on very kindly, especially for a woman.
Your vocation should always entail what you think God wants for your life. I don’t think I ever said that the choice to remain single should be made so that one can pursue a career. One should make the choice to remain single because they believe that is what God wants for their lives. Much evangilaztion can be done in the work place so I don’t think God frowns on women having careers if that is what they are called to do. My vocation was as a wife and mother. I don’t have a career other than that at this time because nothing has come along for me that is compatible. Someone else’s vocation may to remain single. Regardless, I don’t see how any of these vocations are incompatible with receiving a college degree. My vocation, however, came early so I haven’t received a degree yet!
 
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Lapsed:
Why the specific purpose of pursuing a career? What exactly do you mean by that? Pursuing a career to gain wealth and status like Hillary Clinton appears to be doing? Or pursuing a career to contribute to the betterment of the world, such as Marie Curie? Are you looking for an excuse to accuse the Church of sexism in secular matters?

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I meant if a woman places her interest in a particluar feild of study above the possibility of motherhood. If she decides that she would rather have a career than family. Of course it’s not an issue for men, since they may have both.
 
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cynic:
I meant if a woman places her interest in a particluar feild of study above the possibility of motherhood. If she decides that she would rather have a career than family. Of course it’s not an issue for men, since they may have both.
If that is the place where God is leading her, then the Church encourages her to follow God’s lead.

I’ve noticed that your reference is consistently to what the woman in question wants for herself. From a Catholic perspective, we are all called to place what God wants for us ahead of what we want for ourselves. I’m not certain how often most of us succeed in actually doing so, but part of living a life of faith is growing in conformity to God’s will.
 
that would be a lot easier for a man, since he can have both a family and a career. But for women its ussually either/or.
 
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cynic:
that would be a lot easier for a man, since he can have both a family and a career. But for women its ussually either/or.
Do you have a point? If so, what exactly is it?
 
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cynic:
As far as I can tell, there seems to be two options available to young Cataholic women. Become a Nun or a Mother. In both cases the possibility of a seriouse career in any area seems impossible since career could not be considered a seriouse enough reason to delay, space out or finish having children.

GIven this, isn’t sending your daughters to college just a giant waste of time? What is the point of 4 years of work and thousands of dollars of fees if the primary purpouse of a womans life must be as a stay at home mother?

Any day now there will be threads about whether the Press should be allowed (No); whether street lighting should be allowed (No); whether electricity can licitly be used by Catholics (No); whether there are inhabited lands in the southern hemisphere (No); Whether the Pope is rightful Divine Emperor of all mankind, or only all Christians (the former, of course)​

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Maybe there’s a good story there, struggling to get out.

Roll on, 1350 AD 🙂 ##
 
One thing my devout Catholic dad told me while growing up was,“Be self sufficient so you never have to rely on a man. Go to college, get a good education. One never knows what can happen in life!” I thank my DD every day for that advice. I will give my children the same advice!

What did I do? I went to college and became a dental hygienist. This is a career in which I can fully support myself and daughter if something should happen to DH.

Of course, by your post you are assuming that a woman will marry or become a nun right after highschool. I knew I didn’t want to get married right after highschool. I hadn’t found Mr. Right. I wasn’t going to work in a grocery store (not that there is anything wrong with that. Just wasn’t right for me) waiting for the right guy to come around. What if I never met the right one? I at least wanted a career I could rely on.

Absolutely, college is important! It opens many doors.
 
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cynic:
that would be a lot easier for a man, since he can have both a family and a career. But for women its ussually either/or.
Sadly mistaken…many woman have both a family with children and a career 😃
 
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cynic:
Is that a valid choice though, to remain single so that you can pursue a career? I didn’t think such a choice would be looked on very kindly, especially for a woman.
Please re-read the CCC section 2231 cited above. It’s just fine.

Also, this super-conservative women-oppressing Catholic Church was the first institution to confer a doctoral degree on a woman, Elena Cornaro Piscopia, in 1678. As it happens, she later took the habit of a Benidictine oblate and became a teacher. The Catholic Church was also the first one to put women as chief administrators in a host of professions, including hospital administration. Where did you get the idea that “all” a woman can do is be a mother or a nun? Not from studying the Catholic Church…

Just because you’re a nun or a mom, it doesn’t mean that’s “all” you have to contribute! My wife, a stay at home mom, has a masters degree. Without it, our family would be much poorer intellectually and spiritually. She uses her skills daily, and I’m glad she has them. Many nuns teach and write, contributing greatly to the spiritual edification of the faithful. Why on earth would you think education isn’t required for women?

God Bless,
RyanL
 
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cynic:
As far as I can tell, there seems to be two options available to young Cataholic women. Become a Nun or a Mother. In both cases the possibility of a seriouse career in any area seems impossible since career could not be considered a seriouse enough reason to delay, space out or finish having children.

GIven this, isn’t sending your daughters to college just a giant waste of time? What is the point of 4 years of work and thousands of dollars of fees if the primary purpouse of a womans life must be as a stay at home mother?
Sounds like a good idea. Make sure those little Catholic kids have the disadvantage of a poorly educated mother. It’s a great formula for economic and political marginalization. Then they could complain about being victimized by a materialistic society.

But, upon further consideration, how old was Mary when Jesus was born? I’d think that is a pretty good standard. So, couldn’t a lot of time and effort be saved by dropping high school, too?

Just think of all those large, loving, dirt poor Catholic families.
 
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Ortho:
Sounds like a good idea. Make sure those little Catholic kids have the disadvantage of a poorly educated mother. It’s a great formula for economic and political marginalization. Then they could complain about being victimized by a materialistic society.

But, upon further consideration, how old was Mary when Jesus was born? I’d think that is a pretty good standard. So, couldn’t a lot of time and effort be saved by dropping high school, too?

Just think of all those large, loving, dirt poor Catholic families.
Are you for real? Where do you get all your wisdom? Anyway to respond to the OP, Women need an education today. To say that all we are going to be are Nuns or marry young and start having babies right away is a very generalized statement about Catholic Women. I know of a few Nuns that have Masters degrees and put it to good use. Even the woman who marries young and has babies early would benefit from an education as will her children. It’s not wasted.
 
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cynic:
As far as I can tell, there seems to be two options available to young Cataholic women. Become a Nun or a Mother. In both cases the possibility of a seriouse career in any area seems impossible since career could not be considered a seriouse enough reason to delay, space out or finish having children.

GIven this, isn’t sending your daughters to college just a giant waste of time? What is the point of 4 years of work and thousands of dollars of fees if the primary purpouse of a womans life must be as a stay at home mother?
If this is “as far as you can tell”, then you need to study what the Church teaches. Pope John Paul ll wrote an encyclical on the dignity of women; perhaps before you post your opinions it would be wise to know your subject more thoroughly.
To answer to the question in your thread title, “no”.
 
As a former high school teacher, I’m going to put in my two cents’ worth.

Education is about much more than a career. It’s about becoming a better person.

Think about it. Does reading Shakespeare help you career-wise? Listening to Mozart? Reading philosophy?

I’m encouraging my two daughters to attend college–not just for a career but to be better, more well-rounded individuals.
 
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bear06:
You’re leaving out Consecrated virgins and just plain being called to the single life.
I second that. I’m nearly 50 and never married. It’s not what I had expected from life, but that’s the cards I was dealt. We single women have to be able to make a living and support ourselves.

And if your comeback to that is, “Well, if you are single, maybe that’s a sign you’re supposed to be a nun,” then my response to you would be, “That would have been a real good trick, seeing that I was raised in a Protestant home.” I’m a convert, and I didn’t come into the Church until just a few years ago.

A good overall education never hurt anyone. I don’t mean learning a bunch of liberal garbage, I mean things like history, and language, and literature, and the like.
 
The fact that “Thou Shalt Not be a Working Professional AND a Mother” is not the 11th commandment is shocking to some 🙂
 
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cynic:
As far as I can tell, there seems to be two options available to young Cataholic women. Become a Nun or a Mother.
I disagree. There’s three.

Being a mother, a nun…or BEING SINGLE!!!:crying:

BTW, I’m a college student and in my last semester thank goodness…is this a waste?
 
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kage_ar:
The fact that “Thou Shalt Not be a Working Professional AND a Mother” is not the 11th commandment is shocking to some 🙂
AMEN to that!!

It is not a sin to be a working mom.
 
Mommy of 3:
Are you for real? Where do you get all your wisdom? Anyway to respond to the OP, Women need an education today. To say that all we are going to be are Nuns or marry young and start having babies right away is a very generalized statement about Catholic Women. I know of a few Nuns that have Masters degrees and put it to good use. Even the woman who marries young and has babies early would benefit from an education as will her children. It’s not wasted.
You don’t think Mary was a good example? In fact, did she go to school? Was she literate? Maybe we can drop grammar school, too.
 
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kage_ar:
The fact that “Thou Shalt Not be a Working Professional AND a Mother” is not the 11th commandment is shocking to some 🙂
You mean we are smart enough to do both:D How narrow minded some people are, when they think all Catholic women are good for is to have babies. I’ll let them in on a secret--------a Catholic Woman can be intelligent and have babies.
 
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