Should women be treated as equals

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That’s an interesting perspective. I was listening to a Catholic podcast (matt fradd or his wife, I think).

They brought up an experience a nun told them. That a Catholic husband was boasting about their traditional marriage, homeschooling, the wife being a SAHM, etc. But the nun couldn’t help but notice the exhaustion and quiet unhappiness in the wife’s face, which the husband was oblivious to.

Not every woman is miserable living life this way, but the opposite is also true. Not every woman is happy this way.
 
Every Catholic should read Unholy Rage by Donna Steichen. Disturbing stuff.
 
“Margaret Thatcher detested feminism. I know this because she told us, “The feminists hate me, don’t they? And I don’t blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison.””

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I read it years ago. I see it as fear-mongeting now. I mean, I knew even back then it was written to elicit a certain response but I was into it. Now I’m only interested in being emotionally manipulated by sad movies or books.
 
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“In the Communist Manifesto and The German Ideology, he defined marriage as legalized prostitution and a form of female slavery”

“An effective way to destroy marriage and the family was advanced by communist theorist Georg Lukács, who introduced the concept of “cultural terrorism,” which involved the liquidation of religion, monogamy, and the ostensibly male-dominated family. Lukács advocated the introduction in the schools of – and as a minister in the 1919 Hungarian Bolshevik government of Béla Kun actually installed – courses on free love, sexual liberation, and Freud’s notion of “polymorphous perversity,” which he believed a revolutionary necessity.”

“As Paul Kengor writes in Takedown: From Communists to Progressives, How the Left Has Sabotaged Family and Marriage, “[a]s long as the traditional family is reversed, Marxism is advanced.” Marriage redefined, he continues, is “an ideal, handy device to destroy the family.””

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Karl Marx hated marriage, and Marxism is marriage's enemy - LifeSite

Once the traditional institution of marriage has been disabled, the new dialectic of Marxist inversion will win the day.
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Inequality between men and women isn’t a Church teaching. Eve was created from Adam’s side…

And the highest ranking human in God’s Kingdom is a woman, too!
 
Lea101 said:
You know what isn’t morally neutral? Hurting people or restricting their freedom, when their actions doesn’t infringe on your rights, of course.
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I would change that to another persons rights.
 
edwest211 said:
What did feminists do? Think for the woman? Make her into their image as if she had no brain?
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That’s what you seem to claim. And frankly, I think that’s very insulting - you’re saying women can’t think for ourselves
 
edwest211 said:
“They advocated for certain policies” like contraception, abortion, and the created out of thin air, No-Fault Divorce. That has created a utopia?
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No fault divorce replaced systems that just tended to have the couple essentially make up reasons for the divorce. Forcing people who don’t like each other anymore to stay married doesn’t exactly sound like utopia to me.
 
Consider. Has radical feminism improved the lot of the women who fell for it? Did their lives become idyllic?

Life isn’t perfect. People aren’t perfect.

I have a significant background regarding the conditions in Germany during the war. They were far more complicated than most know. Regarding this subject, there is no comparison.
 
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This doesn’t contradict what I’ve said, so I’m curious about why you gave that link?
 
edwest211 said:
Consider. Has radical feminism improved the lot of the women who fell for it? Did their lives become idyllic?

Life isn’t perfect. People aren’t perfect.

I have a significant background regarding the conditions in Germany during the war. They were far more complicated than most know. Regarding this subject, there is no comparison.
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I’d say opportunities for women have increased considerably. Now, if you believe that is a bad thing, then I guess feminism is a bad thing. If, however, you believe people are more than just their genitals, it’s a good thing.
 
Ahh, Hollywood, fighting the Catholic church, promoting harm.

Hollywood and the movie industry has strongly promoted many of the problems we are in right now in our society.
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No fault divorce replaced systems that just tended to have the couple essentially make up reasons for the divorce.
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The reason there needed to be good reasons in the past for divorce was to protect children and to be sure and maintain their rights to having both a mother and a father. It was also meant to prevent the chaos we see in our society right now.
Of course concern for the children has long been lost.
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Forcing people who don’t like each other anymore to stay married doesn’t exactly sound like utopia to me.
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Our vows and words no longer mean anything. Whatever happened to “for better or worse”? Love between a husband and wife is meant to be unconditional, not to leave just because today I don’t like you anymore.

Marriage is a committment whether is sounds like utopia to you or not.
 
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You should broaden your perspective. First, I heard the non-debate regarding no-fault divorce. It was all about one or the other spouse hiding assets, finding those assets and lots of money spent on attorneys. It was designed for wealthy, not average people. I recall a TV show where a sheriff was watching a man with a bulldozer tear down ‘his half’ of the house that he owned after divorce. Her attorney arrived and tried to convince the sheriff that what the man was doing was wrong. The sheriff said what he was doing was lawful. Then the quick-thinking attorney pointed out that there was no trailer visible for the bulldozer. Having no trailer was against the law.

Respectfully, your defensive attitude is puzzling. No one is “forcing” anyone to do anything. In the past, a father told his daughter who was about to get married that she could change her mind at any time, up to and including the day of the wedding. Force? No.

And if divorce occurred, who was there to help her? Radical feminists?
 
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