Should women be treated as equals

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Let’s not get too fixated on the selfish thing. The reference was accusing child-free adults of being selfish. Telling people they are selfish won’t inspire anyone but the easily manipulated to have children.
MagdalenaRita said:
So, I am not sure how that would work out as a Catholic marrying in the Catholic church and are required to be open to life.
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Who says they are married?

I didn’t avoid marriage and children deliberately, but both were probably a bad idea for me. I didn’t have good models for either and I am probably too damaged even now for it to be a good idea.
 
Woman and man are equal in the sense that they have the same value. They are treated differently though, man normally doesn’t wear skirt, etc.
 
That is the poison flowing the veins of too many. God is waiting to heal any who call upon Him.
 
People aren’t perfect. It would be nice to hear from good parents whose children are now adults.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
The reference was accusing child-free adults of being selfish.
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Yeah they’re not being selfish. Many are just being rational. They’re graduating college with $100K+ of student loans, marrying someone else with $100K+ of student loans and then both working 50+ hours a week to pay off $200K+ college debt and wondering “Uh…how do we fit in a kid? Who takes off work to look after the kid? Do we hire nanny? Then how do we pay off $200K+ of college?” Its a total mess. This generation has been totally screwed.

Couple of reasons why
(1) Cost of college: rose due to Govt subsidies. The more Govt subsidies the colleges received, the more colleges increased price. Its like if you sold bread for $5 for each loaf and Govt sent everyone a $3 subsidy for each loaf, well then you’ll increase price of loaf to $8 since you know that still amounts to $5 from each persons wallet . Then Govt gives everyone $20 for loaf…you increase price loaf to $25, etc. Govt needs to stop paying subsidies for College…get out of it altogether and prices will fall back to natural price (if nobody had bread subsidies anymore, you’d reduce price of bread back to $5)

(2) Feminism: Rich oligarchs realized they could double their profits if they doubled the number of workers, since then they could cut slash wages (supply and demand). When you double the amount of something, you half its value. So now we have 2 spouses working to earn collectively what 1 spouse used to earn…all so that rich oligarchs can keep getting rich meanwhile couples either don’t have kids or kids are raised by stranger nannys. Solution is realizing that men and women share different but equal functions in the family. Just because each gender has a different role, doesn’t mean they’re not equal. Its like a football team, where the goalie and the forward have different roles, but they’re not unequal. The goalie is needed to defend the goal. The forward is needed to score goals. Both are equal, even though they play different roles. However, if the goalie leaves the net to join the forward because he doesn’t feel “equal” unless he’s a forward, now you have 2 forwards but a defenseless goal so will lose because the other team will score. Such is the 21th century family. Both genders somehow think they must be doing the same thing or else they’re not “equal” which is delusional, meanwhile the family is losing over and over again and will continue to until both genders realize they are desperately needed to play their role for the family to survive.
 
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This isn’t about imperfect parents and I hope you weren’t minimizing the abuse and neglect I experienced.

I know many good parents and if they were older or in a position to mentor they could have served as models for me. Mentoring is another story though. I work with a lot of parents who are at risk of losing their children and they can’t find “parenting mentors” except maybe the area CPC but that serves parents of children less than 18 months, maybe less.
 
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They’re graduating college with $100K+ of student loans, marrying someone else with $100K+ of student loans and then both working 50+ hours a week to pay off $200K+ college debt and wondering “Uh…how do we fit in a kid? Who takes off work to look after the kid? Do we hire nanny? Then how do we pay off $200K+ of college?” Its a total mess. This generation has been totally screwed.
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Not where I live, they aren’t. 🤣
Aquinas11 said:
Rich oligarchs realized they could double their profits if they doubled the number of workers, since then they could cut slash wages (supply and demand). When you double the amount of something, you half its value. So now we have 2 spouses working to earn collectively what 1 spouse used to earn…
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So was just one person supposed to do one of these jobs? Was a married man supposed to work 80 hours a week to complete the work that two people are doing now? The math isn’t adding up.
 
It’s still possible to minimize what people post about themselves.
 
This is good stuff. I like Greg Popcak’s approach and my mom bought his book 40 years too late; she was old enough to be his mum. But my dad would have been able to do this. And I doubt he would have allowed supported my mom’s attempts to fo better. That’s usually how it worked in my family.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
Was a married man supposed to work 80 hours a week to complete the work that two people are doing now? The math isn’t adding up.
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See part: “when you double something, you halve its value”, its just law of supply and demand.

That applies not just for workers, but for anything (e.g. when a fruit is in season and in great supply, its price goes down at grocery store, etc)
 
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Bruised_Reed:
Was a married man supposed to work 80 hours a week to complete the work that two people are doing now? The math isn’t adding up.
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See part: “when you double something, you halve its value”, its just law of supply and demand.

That applies not just for workers, but for anything (e.g. when a fruit is in season and in great supply, its price goes down at grocery store, etc)
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So if I earn $100k and my wife earns the same, then we are earning…$100k? $50k? You halve the value of your income when you double it?

You never did economics, did you. Be honest.
 
I just don’t see it. Maybe because looking a a variety of jobs, especially nurses and others who are pulling double shifts.
 
when you double the number of workers, you halve their value, yes. That’s simple economics supply and demand
 
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