First show me where I said any of that?
The post you linked to said it.niceatheist:
First show me where I said any of that?
)And if his decision is to lead to ruin for the family? There are lots of errors that fall below sin. So unless it reaches the level of sin, a woman is not use her intellect, or at least not speak it out loud unless asked? In that case, women well and truly are not equal, are subordinates and are constrained by this family ranking system.niceatheist:
First show me where I said any of that?
Then the next thing is who decides if your husband is making a bad choice?
Feminists always bring up the “tyrant” example.
If your husband asks you to sin, then yes you have a right to refuse. Otherwise he is the final decision maker but he is also to love his wife which means listening to her (name removed by moderator)ut
He is the head of the family because God planned it that way.
Not my anger, my mystery at the notion that a wife is essentially of lower rank to a husband. Have you even read the article you cited?niceatheist:
He is the head of the family because God planned it that way.
Your anger is being shown by putting words and extreme examples in my mouth.
Marriage is about two people being one and working together not separately.
To be fair, the position expressed in that article would be considered an extreme and incorrect position by the vast majority of Catholics. Not saying that sentiment doesn’t still exist in the Church, but you won’t find many lay Catholics in real life that agree with it.
If women are truly equal as persons, that means they have personal autonomy. I’m not saying that gives them the right to walk out on their children, but it certainly means they have a voice in the family, and when they’re husband, for lack of a better word, is an idiot, then she made need to take control of the family for its own good. I’ve seen that with my own eyes.niceatheist:
To be fair, the position expressed in that article would be considered an extreme and incorrect position by the vast majority of Catholics. Not saying that sentiment doesn’t still exist in the Church, but you won’t find many lay Catholics in real life that agree with it.
Not once did I say any of that. ???
Or she could take feminists advice - not marry, be promiscuous, pursue a professional career first instead of having kids first when her fertility is peaked, and then at age 40 realize she has a great resume but no family that she desperately wants and her fertility is gone and on top of that she can’t find a husband since all the good ones are either already married or are looking for women in their 20s.
From the article you cited:niceatheist:
Not once did I say any of that. ???
I said equal but different.
In a free country, that’s her choice. Choices come with consequences. Is it your place to judge a woman who does this?niceatheist:
Or she could take feminists advice - not marry, be promiscuous, pursue a professional career first instead of having kids first when her fertility is peaked, and then at age 40 realize she has a great resume but no family that she desperately wants and her fertility is gone and on top of that she can’t find a husband since all the good ones are either already married or are looking for women in their 20s.
Although the Church’s message to women is not a model of consistency, it is moving in the direction of real equality. From Amoris Laetitia:
Says person who just judged her decision
The lack of self awareness is mind blowing
This is something I really love about forums. It’s not like an argument in a bar or at the bbq where comments dissapear into the ether never to be re-assesed. You actually have to sit and think about what you are going to say and then consciously and soberly write it down. And it’s there for all to see.
same modern society that normalizes infanticide? use that moral compass at your own peril
You previously said that equality of opportunity is fine as you are concerned. But not equality of outcome. I asked you about explaining that.niceatheist:
Or she could take feminists advice - not marry, be promiscuous, pursue a professional career first instead of having kids first when her fertility is peaked, and then at age 40 realize she has a great resume but no family that she desperately wants and her fertility is gone and on top of that she can’t find a husband since all the good ones are either already married or are looking for women in their 20s.