Should women be treated as equals

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Sarcelle said:
Are you also opposed to nuns Ed?

They most likely are educated and have no children.

Is giving birth the sole purpose of a woman?
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My troll meter is buzzing. Let’s see where “Ed’s” posts go before I click the flag button.
 
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LumineDiei said:
That being said, I shall continue to put my trust and salvation in the Church…not Edgar. Not Islam.
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Yes

The Church never taught that higher education was sinful for women nor is it threatening to society. If it had, it wouldn’t be founding and running women’s universities throughout the world.

By the way the more moderate Muslim societies also encourage higher education for both men and women. In fact in Pakistan, the more highly educated the woman, the more desirable she is.

Of course the extremists see it differently but I’m talking about moderates here.
 
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Edgar said:
one of the most devastating contraceptives ever invented - a university degree.
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While it’s true that some men find educated women a threat, and would be unable to sustain a marriage with one, there are far more who find education an attractive attribute.
 
I’m little shocked and disappointed by this thread… It’s now 140 something posts in - I would have hope the each post after the question was posed would have said.

YES, BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL.
 
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I think education for everyone, women and men included, is a very important thing.
People should attain as much knowledge and should earn as many degrees as they can.
I think God wants us all to be well read and well educated! 😇
 
MagdalenaRita said:
Yes, treated as equals but also treated different. Men and women are equal but men and women are different.
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Can you give me an example of “treated different”? If my daughter doesn’t want to be a mother, should I treat her differently? Should I admonish her? Is she defying her nature? Be specific here. I’m asking, because this sounds suspiciously like “separate but equal”, and some of the Church’s teachings seem to come close to this; as in, “oh sure, men and women are equal, but women are given the gift of motherhood, so that makes them different…” And from that seems to spin the notion that a woman who doesn’t want to be a mother is somehow defying her nature. She’s “equal”, for some subjective notion of equal, but it seems the preference is she be a mother.

Equal to me means that if a woman does not wish to be a mother, she should have exactly the same chance at outcomes in her working life as a man, that she cannot be discriminated against because someone think she should be a mother instead of, say, an engineer or a corporate executive.

The fact is that women are penalized for motherhood, if they have ambitions other than being a stay-at-home mom. They lose precious years of developing their career, while men have no such handicap, and this is where “they’re equal but different comes into play.” Motherhood is lauded, until the economic consequences are put forward, then suddenly a woman who either chooses not to have children or asks the question “Why should I be effectively punished for being a mother” comes up.

So let’s try to suss out what different means, beyond the obvious biological differences that two X chromosomes almost always leads to a womb.
 
Edgar said:
Feminsim hates women, because feminsim hates motherhood. Feminism preaches that motherhood is an impediment to women becoming “fulfilled” - ie, women can only be fulfilled if they become more like men. Feminism is grossly unnatural, deadly, satanic madness masquerading as equality.
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So your definition of “woman” is “motherhood”?
 
Okay. A stranger on the internet considers my post as nonsense.
 
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The Catholic Church has produced several documents regarding the dignity and vocation of women.
 
Oh we know that.

However you cannot deny that there are Catholics who do not think much of women.
 
The exceptions do not prove the rules are false. In a perfect world, everything would be perfect.
 
I am addressing the issue of Catholics who do hold the view of women who are inferior.

I am well aware that their views is not representative of the Church but that should not stop me from addressing it.

I am also well aware that the Church upholds the value of both men and women. I am a Catholic who is faithful to the teaching and doctrines of the Church believe it or not.
 
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Sarcelle said:
I am addressing the issue of Catholics who do hold the view of women who are inferior.

I am well aware that their views do not impact negatively on the Church but that should not stop me from addressing it.

I am also well aware that the Church upholds the value of both men and women. I am a Catholic who is faithful to the Magisterium of the Church believe it or not.
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Who are these Catholics holding that view?
 
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