Should women be treated as equals

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There is nothing wrong with women getting a degree. What is poisonous is “Women’s Studies” which encourages a separation from men. Men who are the complementary part of families and relationships. An extreme, and Marxist version is the one said by feminist icon, Gloria Steinem, “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” And yes, even some Catholic universities have succumbed to the secular push that occurred in the late 1960s.
 
Universities merely perpetuate the seduction of the human spirit towards transient and lesser goods than is love itself.
So you think that they are a bad thing. OK. Got that. Hotbeds of ‘Marxist feminism’ perhaps as I think Ed suggested.

So what we should do with these centres of learning? Close them or perhaps restrict them to men only?
 
Have a room that is clearly marked “Communist Reeducation Camp.” That way, young women won’t be fooled when they start college.
 
There is nothing wrong with women getting a degree. What is poisonous is “Women’s Studies” which encourages a separation from men. Men who are the complementary part of families and relationships. An extreme, and Marxist version is the one said by feminist icon, Gloria Steinem, “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” And yes, even some Catholic universities have succumbed to the secular push that occurred in the late 1960s.
Catholic universities are pushing a Marxist feminist agenda? Name me some names, Ed.
 
Someone could have a hobby centered around and there are many resources on history that are probably less expensive than a degree.
That’s true, but I reckon it would be difficult to build up the same set of skills and the same body of knowledge by pursuing history as a hobby as you would expect to gain by taking it as a degree course. I also don’t think that many hobbyists are likely to reach a level to produce some masterpiece of scholarship like, say, The Strange Career of Jim Crow. And I’d say the same for pretty much any other field. Of course, you get exceptional cases such as Michael Faraday, who managed to become one of the most important scientists of all time despite having almost no formal education, but these cases are rare.
 
That doesn’t explain attempts to recruit the public to solve scientific problems, such as mapping dark matter.
 
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Universities merely perpetuate the seduction of the human spirit towards transient and lesser goods than is love itself.
So you think that they are a bad thing. OK. Got that. Hotbeds of ‘Marxist feminism’ perhaps as I think Ed suggested.

So what we should do with these centres of learning? Close them or perhaps restrict them to men only?
The trouble with “word salad” is that people read into it what they will.
At it again I see, master of the misinterpretation and straw man.
Restrict them to Charles Darwin and Karl Marx?
Universities reflect the attitudes of a society.
 
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I got my degree but I don’t even use it. My field of study didn’t work out for me
 
The trouble with “word salad” is that people read into it what they will.
At it again I see, master of the misinterpretation and straw man.
C’mon, Al. The quote feature is working as it should. There was no misrepresentation. You said:

‘Universities merely perpetuate the seduction of the human spirit towards transient and lesser goods than is love itself.’

If you’d left out the word ‘merely’ you may have had a leg to stand on.
 
C’mon, Al. The quote feature is working as it should. There was no misrepresentation. You said:

‘Universities merely perpetuate the seduction of the human spirit towards transient and lesser goods than is love itself.’

If you’d left out the word ‘merely’ you may have had a leg to stand on.
Perhaps I misrepresented:
So you think that they are a bad thing.
I have my personal issues with university department fiefdoms, having spent about twenty years on both sides of of the prof-student interface, that I think them to be a bad thing, definitely not.

However,
Universities reflect the attitudes of a society.
A Godless society will have its values reinforced by the intelligentsia.
 
So you think young men should be learning the things that you don’t want the young women learning?
 
In fact, I think it explains it very well, because citizen science projects are almost always coordinated by people who do have rigorous academic credentials. If you’re talking about something like the Milkyway@Home project, it’s run by a team of university professors with doctorates and hundreds of peer-reviewed papers to their names.

Similarly, any person is welcome to submit to the Oxford English Dictionary evidence of a new word or new sense of a word or earlier or alternative evidence for an existing word or to identify an as yet unidentified quotation. However, the OED also relies upon the expertise of a professional editorial team, such as people with master’s degrees and doctorates in English.
 
“A Godless society will have its values reinforced by the intelligentsia.” That is the core wrong thinking being promoted today. We need to maintain a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
 
That doesn’t explain attempts to recruit the public to solve scientific problems, such as mapping dark matter.
Have you heard of folding@home?

It’s a neat program that’s been going on for a long time with the goal of helping find cures for various diseases. Members install a client on their computer that uses background processes to simulate protein folds, and then sends that information back to a master server for aggregation and examination.

I personally haven’t used it in quite a while, but it’s a cool example of crowd-sourcing research.
 
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What is poisonous is “Women’s Studies” which encourages a separation from men.
Not really. Women’s studies just means a field of academic endeavour that focuses on women. Given that men have tended to be dominant in virtually all known human societies, it is useful to have people who are able to focus on the role of women in history, society, culture, and so on.

The MSt in Women’s Studies at Oxford, for example, includes an option on women’s writing and women in men’s writing during the First World War. Since virtually all combatants, politicians, diplomats, industrialists, and even war poets and war artists involved in the war were men, it is interesting to address the war from the perspective of women. I could summarise everything I was taught at school about the role of women during the First World War thus: women did jobs normally done by the men who were away fighting the war and lots of them lost their husbands, fiancés, boyfriends, lovers, brothers, fathers, and so on, many remaining widows or spinsters thereafter. If women’s studies is opening up fields of study such as this, that can surely only be a good thing.

As for the phrase “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle”, it was actually coined by Irina Dunn, later a member of the Australian senate, when she was an undergraduate at the University of Sydney. She was adapting the phrase “A man needs God like a fish needs a bicycle”, although there are many similarly constructed witticisms. Gloria Steinem merely popularised the phrase. I think you are also taking the phrase rather too seriously. It was originally intended to be nothing more than an amusing phrase indicating that it is possible for a woman to live her life independent of a man. I think you may also need to learn a bit more about Gloria Steinem herself. She was a married woman at one time, although her husband tragically died from a form of brain cancer only a few years into their marriage. She also was no Marxist. On the contrary, she was actively anti-communist and was on the payroll of the CIA at one time. For this reason she is very unpopular with many of the left. She’s also come out against medically unnecessary routine circumcision of male infants, so she is hardly solely focused on women’s issues.
 
I am very aware of women in war. From the Catholic perspective, this is not to be encouraged. The current mantra is “women are just as good as men” as if there are no differences, tends to dismiss any differences out of hand or blame them on “cultural conditioning.” That is a false view. Men and women have defined roles in all societies. I only saw a tendency to demonize men as opposed to solving problems. I firmly believe in giving credit where credit is due.

There is nothing about Gloria Steinem that should not be taken seriously. Her feminist icon status means she is more than an individual, she is a symbol. Her embrace of Marxist class warfare brands her a Marxist. In 1972, she co-founded Ms. Magazine. Ms. was created by women who didn’t want to be seen as being ‘owned’ by a man. A very divisive concept. I saw an issue and I can call it a Playboy-type magazine designed for women. Totally unpalatable. In bad taste.

Being anti-Communist and on the CIA payroll I find difficult to believe. She did gain entry to the Playboy club dressed as a bunny. Got to infiltrate the lair of a male chauvenist pig promoter.
 
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There is nothing wrong with women getting a degree. What is poisonous is “Women’s Studies” which encourages a separation from men. Men who are the complementary part of families and relationships. An extreme, and Marxist version is the one said by feminist icon, Gloria Steinem, “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” And yes, even some Catholic universities have succumbed to the secular push that occurred in the late 1960s.
Catholic universities are pushing a Marxist feminist agenda? Name me some names, Ed.
Ready when you are @edwest211 with those uni names.
 
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“You won’t get it.” “I am not a number. I am a free man!”
 
I wouldn’t know. I have no idea what that show is about.
The way I understand it, Sex in the City was about shoes and shopping.

Oh and they went out to lunch a lot.

Desperate Housewives was my jam
 
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