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OK, sorry for using that term.A “grass roots movement” sounds very political to me.
OK, sorry for using that term.A “grass roots movement” sounds very political to me.
Moses said we shouldnt wear clothing of two mixed fibres, we got around thatWell, Paul says you should; don’t know how you all got round that.
This is the very circumstance that exists right now!OK, sorry for using that term.How about an organic movement? A home-grown movement? A movement among women, that doesn’t necessarily have a leader or an agenda other than to say it’s “OK” to cover our heads in church should we feel called to do so?
Well with his preference for the "old ways"I’m hanging on to my mantillas and gloves.Well apparently the Pope doesn’t think that it is necessary, I don’t know how you got around that
Didn’t the men uncover their heads? This whole statement sounds like something a “liberal Catholic” would say.Yes, no: it’s one own decision. I’m of an age where girls and women did not make simple visits to Church or chapel if they had no scarf, veil, mantilla or hat handy. Men and boys went right on in without any special garments
Or don’t you care?Has anyone checked The Textural Concordance of The Holy Scriptures for a clue as to why the Church requires a head covering for women?
The two or three months a year when men and boys wore hats (for protection from weather) I’m sure they took off their hats. The females were stuck with no choice to enter and pray if they happened to be without a hat or scarf.Didn’t the men uncover their heads? This whole statement sounds like something a “liberal Catholic” would say.
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But I wouldn’t worry about the length of a woman’s hair as a major problem.Yes, sadly. The modern world has lost its way in so many facets of life.
Pax Christi tecum.
Just an observation. If you’re striving for humility I don’t think the above statement works for you.For you sticklers out there.
My friends and I have flirted with this issue for some time, thanks to the example of some very holy women. I know many holy women who do not veil, and take communion in the hand. I feel the need for it because of my sinfulness in the past, and the humility it brings me. It is a mortification, of sorts. This is how it was explained to me. Also, the presence of the holy angels and of the Lord at Mass and Adoration.
Certain sanctimonious types should not give their opinions because it has the effect of coming across as such. This is why the Church should speak up about these things. **Well, I can’t help it if the authorities have no back bone. ** Yes, it is a holy and pious thing to do.
That being said. I look like a fool in a veil. I look like a fool in a bandana. I cannot find the right hat to wear. The best I can do is a scarf tied on like a head band. Different colors to go with what I am wearing. My kids (who said to me at one time “Mom why aren’t you wearing a veil?”) tell me I look like I’m from the 60’s. Well, I can live with that. So, perhaps one can grow into a veil via scarf or hat.
Is that adequate? Or does it have to be a lace veil? How far must I go to get the job done?
Exactly.I really don’t think there is an “anti-headcovering crowd,” however it’s clear that some wish all women to cover their heads as a way to appear more reverent. I dispute the notion that headcovering necessarily equates to reverence. Simple as that.
Yes. Indeed.Exactly.But then if it makes the person wearing it feel that way…go for it.
This attitude is so lacking in even the most basic charity. It assumes the worst about people. Why assume that the woman with the covered head is doing this only because she wants to feel like she’s more reverent than everyone else? Honestly, it is hurtful to read this kind of thing here on Catholic Answers of all places. It is a simple personal devotion. Why impugn the motives of women who make the choice to do this?Exactly.But then if it makes the person wearing it feel that way…go for it.
Personally, I know no Catholic woman who would say or do that.What I am saying is that if or when Rome says, “Women, we have considered well and the pious and longstanding tradition of veiling yourselves at Mass is to be reinstituted as of > > >”. . .let’s not let ourselves be buffaloed into rejecting Rome because, “For the last 40 years I’ve refused to wear that symbol of male oppression and I’ll be d–ned if I wear it again”. Let’s be careful.
Whoa! You completely misunderstood me. *I meant *if it makes a woman feel more reverent and humbled then she should just go for it and not worry whether someone else is or not.This attitude is so lacking in even the most basic charity. It assumes the worst about people. Why assume that the woman with the covered head is doing this only because she wants to feel like she’s more reverent than everyone else? Honestly, it is hurtful to read this kind of thing here on Catholic Answers of all places. It is a simple personal devotion. Why impugn the motives of women who make the choice to do this?
Yoo-hoo? Are you awake?This attitude is so lacking in even the most basic charity. It assumes the worst about people. Why assume that the woman with the covered head is doing this only because she wants to feel like she’s more reverent than everyone else? Honestly, it is hurtful to read this kind of thing here on Catholic Answers of all places. It is a simple personal devotion. Why impugn the motives of women who make the choice to do this?
It’s OK - thank you so much for the clarification. I understand what you mean now. Things can really get nasty here on the trad forum so I suppose I can be jumpier than I normally am.Whoa! You completely misunderstood me. *I meant *if it makes a woman feel more reverent and humbled then she should just go for it and not worry whether someone else is or not.
I am editing this because I just reread the post I was responding to when I made the statement that upset you. It was a little confusing when I responded so I can see where you thought I meant something else.![]()
Really…I’ve never noticed!Things can really get nasty here on the trad forum so I suppose I can be jumpier than I normally am.
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