So Many Facutal Errors

[Hereiam]

You ignore context.

I guess Christ was ignoring context by his words in Luke 16:10…or the evangelist was presenting alternative facts?

I might give Trump a pass on rallying the troops with hyperbolic remarks, but put into context of well over 3000 lies since taking office, its a tough pill to swallow!

 

[Road-Worrier]

…and wishing they had brought something along to wipe their hands off.

Kind of a cheap and mean shot there, don’t you think, ostensible follower of Christ?

 

[Hereiam]

Kind of a cheap and mean shot there, don’t you think, ostensible follower of Christ?

Perhaps. Pray for me, since you apparently are more attuned to Christian virtues than i might be.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Embellishing not lying.Lots of people nflate the truth ,what I would do with my children is really a non issue .If you want to,apply that theory to politicians n general you are in for a rude awakening.Try instead to focus on how much better we are as a country now as opposed to the prior eight years when the real liar n chief was on a non stop apology tour ,blaming and denigrating our country at every turn.He as much as said we are no better n fact not even as good as other countries.

 

[Hereiam]

Try instead to focus on how much better we are as a country now as opposed to the prior eight years

So, it truly is all about the money…or are you claiming from a moral perspective, we are better off?..sad

 

[Jeanne_S]

Money? Really I believe you are the one twisting my comments.Obama outright lied not nay about the ACA but deceived America re his true intent,which is for the ACA to fail because it simply isn’t sustainable,throwing us into a single payer program.
Here’s an example hopefully you will grasp.
If my child went fishing and actually caught a fish but then stated, I just caught the biggest fish in the world! Now was he lying or just exaggerating a truth?
Now ,if Obama comes out and states as fact not once but over and over how families will save at least 2500.00 per year and be able to keep their current plan and Dr. ,knowing full well that a load of you know what.Whose the liar?

 

[dvdjs]

Try instead to focus on how much better we are as a country now

How would you know?

If Trump and his minions tell you that things are much better, perhaps that is embellishment - both in the detraction of past performance and in the actuals on present performance. That kind of embellishment is precisely what you just excused.

Here’s a throught for you. Notwithstanding those who never did seem to grasp the recovery from Bush’s great recession during the Obama years, what we are enjoying now is the continuation of the Obama economy. trump did not change the direction of anything. The main thing that changed is the messaging of those that you selectively listen to.

 

[Jeanne_S]

That’s rich ,and you accuse Trump,supporters of blind allegience? Gotta love it!

 

[dvdjs]

Obama outright lied

You can claim this as often as you like. And when you do I will ask for the proof.
Not a projection that turned out to be true. Not a mistake. But a lie. Prove it.

 

[dvdjs]

That’s rich ,and you accuse Trump,supporters of blind allegience? Gotta love it!

How about a fact?
I’ve posted paragraphs on GDP, jobs creation, unemployment etc. over time that support my perspective.

I am happy to look at the data that informs your opinion.

 

[Jeanne_S]

It’s been proven,premiums are through the roof with ridiculous deductibles.I personally experienced this laviathon of a healthcare mess.Didnt get to keep my dr or plan.I know this is the norm not the exception.Younprove to me otherwise if you wish.Prove it!

 

[dvdjs]

I know this is the norm not the exception.

Show your data.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I’m not a data freak like you.I go off of actual,conversations with real people and my own experiences
You show me verifiable data that supports your premise

 

[dvdjs]

I’m not a data freak like you.I go off of actual,conversations with real people and my own experiences

That is a good way to develop misimpressions.

You show me verifiable data that supports your premise

I have already shown that data on multiple threads.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

I reject your claim that Obama lied about healthcare

LOL Obama’s lies are not lies because…you reject them?

Hoo boy.

I guess Obama also didn’t lie about conscience rights being protected (I’m looking at You, HHS contraceptive mandate…)

 

[Jeanne_S]

Welll,then it shouldn’t be a problem for you to post the here

 

[Jeanne_S]

Exactly! Good call

 

[dvdjs]

LOL Obama’s lies are not lies because… you reject them?

Huh?
Since the claim that they are lies has not been validated and has been vitiated, I reject the claim that they are lies notwithstanding the repetition of the claim. This is not subtle.

I guess Obama also didn’t lie about conscience rights being protected (I’m looking at You, HHS contraceptive mandate…)

Please link to the statement of Obama so that this claim can be examined.

 

[TheLittleLady]

From what I remember, President Obama was not dictator nor did he have the sole proprietorship of any health insurance company. What the for profit insurance companies decided to do was not within the power of the POTUS.

The lobbyists from the for-profit health insurance business said what the politicians wanted to hear, then, they changed the game. They decided to drop people, cancel policies, re-negotiate with health care providers, raise premiums, etc.

There was not one, single line in the ACA that required for profit health insurance companies to do any of those things.

I have had the same PCP since before the ACA. Had a good group policy before ACA, have the same policy now. No one I know was forced to change physicians.

 

[dvdjs]

Welll,then it shouldn’t be a problem for you to post the here

It is tedious.
Here is on jobs, from a recent thread.

14 states hit record-low unemployment World News

It almost never does. Nice graph from your link: (Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.) The recent decline is intriguing.

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