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My data? How about actually talking to people,real people,that’s my data not the data you apparently embrace.
 
I’m intrigued. Why should Obama get his facts straight but Trump be let off “embellishing”?
 
Jeanne_S said:
My data? How about actually talking to people,real people,that’s my data
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That is an excellent method for not getting to the truth.
But is you tell me how many people that you talked to, and the methodology by which you selected them, I could give a good estimate of the uncertainty of your conclusions.
 
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Most of Trumps embellishments are not issues that are going to effect the lives or paychecks ofvAmericans.
The areas where it does matter he has delivered.Tax reform,Supreme Court picks,abortion reform,our involvement in the ME not to mention China and Korea.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Most of Trumps embellishments are not issues that are going to effect the lives or paychecks ofvAmericans.
The areas where it does matter he has delivered.Tax reform,Supreme Court picks,abortion reform,our involvement in the ME not to mention China and Korea.
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So Trump should not get his facts straight when speaking on an international stage? Trump should not get his facts straight ever as long as it does not impact on the American pocket?

Would you say the same for the media? They can embellish all they like as long as they pay their workers fair wages and don’t directly do something that would impact that?

I really don’t understand why you would accept a president who you know lies and embellishes to support himself. I truly cannot comprehend it at all.
 
I am more concerned about results than being loose with the facts. Trump is making America Great Again, just embrace it and applaud his accomplishments rather than nit pick about everything he says.
Actions speak louder than words…
 
So as I understand it you are happy to have your President lie to you.

That is just incomprehensible to me. I hope you do not come to regret it.
 
You are parsing words.I don’t regret anything
 
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I don’t believe I am. You said you are uninterested about whether your President makes things up to sound better.

I do hope there are no future events to make you wish you had cared about his words. I know the rest of the world cares about them very deeply, and his lies, embellishments and propagation of disingenuous news will affect the USA for years to come.
 
Jeanne_S said:
I am more concerned about results than being loose with the facts. Trump is making America Great Again, just embrace it and applaud his accomplishments rather than nit pick about everything he says.
Actions speak louder than words…
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Trump’s behavior, in word and in deed, is antithetical to American values - chief among which are truth and justice. He is debasing America both at home and around the world.
 
That’s your opinion not mine and not that of more than you realize
 
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Doesn’t matter. Lying is not a crime but fraud is and Trump had plenty of that charged against him.
 
The signature part was that pre-existing conditions were dropped. Maybe some doctors chose not to honor the ACA but that doesn’t mean the exchanges weren’t created in good faith to make it affordable. Certainly it has become more popular with time.
 
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I don’t believe I am. You said you are uninterested about whether your President makes things up to sound better.
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Actually, I think @Jeanne_S stated that she is “more concerned about results than being loose with the facts.” That doesn’t equate to being “…uninterested about whether your President makes things up.”

Clearly her words mean she is less interested in whether he is accurate with the facts than if he tries to do the right thing. It does not mean that she is uninterested in whether he embellishes the facts.

Ironic that in a thread and post about being concerned with the truth of the matter you are playing just a tad fast and loose with the truth.

You really ought to apologize for being disingenuous with your claim. As you said, “… ‘embellishing the facts’ is the same thing as a lie…” I suppose that applies to embellishing your claims about what others post on CAF, no?
 
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You really ought to apologize for being disingenuous
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If you wanna parse, let’s parse.

If @Jeanne_S’s statement does mean that she is less interested in Trump telling the truth than something else that you describe as “[his trying] to the do the right thing”. But that situation does not exclude her being uninterested - a simple Venn diagram would make this clear to you. And judging from the totality of her remarks, which reveal no issue with Trump’s lying, a reasonable person could easily conclude that she is largely and perhaps totality uninterested in Trump’s lying.

Your post against @Lou2U is off base.
 
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