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And what do we do with all the teachers who don’t have doctorates? Do we fire them?your comments about educational level may be correct. tell you what. promise to pay teachers entry level wages, commensurate with their eductional level if they have doctors degrees and you might get more teacher with doctoral degrees. aa
That’s the rock that all such argumenrts founder on – the simple fact that the old guard of teachers will remain, will have seniority, and will demand even higher pay.
That’s why I support CAI – we can’t afford PHDs at every school, for every course.just remember, if you want to get the best people you can, the seciong you make doctoral degrees a firm requirement, you are going to be competeing with all the jobbs in society that require a doctoral degree. taxes might respond.
But we can afford PHDs to help develop the CAI courses that will be delivered via internet to all schools.
There are about 50 million children in school in the US – say roughly 3-4 million in each grade (the lower grades being more numerous.) If we could hire one PHD as the Subject Matter Expert in math to develop all the high school math courses, then the cost of his salary would be spread over millions of students. And once the course was developed and paid for, there would be no further expense for the SME.
Who said text books are the only things teachers use?please examine ther the curriculum at any college or university for teaching degrees. there is much much much more time devoted to subject matter than education courses, right or wrong. in this instance you are wrong. textbooks, one and only one item in the arsenal of material that a teacher has available to him to help teach. sometimes not even the most used or effective item there are all kinds of things that a teacher can and should use. and most that i know do use.
No, they are not “tested.” If they were, there wouldn’t be so many errors in them (Google “errors in textbooks” and see what you find.) If textbooks were merely proofread, there wouldn’t be any need for this: education-world.com/a_curr/curr279.shtmltexta sre tested all the time. it wiould be fair to say that they are tested for validity, content, comprehensiveness, interest every daybt student teachers, curriculum ciommittes, admiinistrators, parents, city councils, and evidently since he seems to know so myuch about education the president.
Here’s an example (from colleges.com/Umagazine/articles/campusclips/textbooks.html)
Big blunders found in school textbooks
By Andrew J. Pulskamp
The fruits of knowledge are a hard won harvest. In the 13 years from kindergarten to college, the main occupation of a person’s life is learning. Students slog their way through high school finding out that the first life on earth consisted of tiny green specks and that one of the common characteristics of all organisms is that they can move on their own.
There were the lessons about Sir Isaac Newton going up to the top of the leaning tower of Pisa to drop a ten-pound weight and a one-pound weight. This was all to show that objects of different weights still fall at the same rate.
But the other things are failing – we have a 30% high school dropout rate in this country, and many who do graduate cannot read or write.i am not against anything you are saying, quite the contrary possibly, excepy your seeming ridea as to the simplicity of learning by cai as opposed. to anything else. cai is great in its place, but so are other thinngs.
So the government school system has failed. We knew that.finally and perhaps most importantly. almost everybody outside the profession forgets the most important factor in comoparing either educational achievement today compaered to yesterday. you have, collectively, with purpose or no, assigned us tasks that no system was ever assigned, perhaps in all recorded histroy. you expect us to do things that were originally the responsibility of parentm, priests, rabbis, business men, employers, and the list goes on and on and on. and you have also taken a population of individuals who 100 yrars ago would not have been afforded the luxyry of an education, because society decided that they just couldnt benefit from it or didnt deserve it. we have this population,… yoiuve goven us almost nothing additional to help educate this population. yothe resources you allocate to us ro do these extra jobs are essentially the same as they used to be before we were assigned them. and then you sat back in tyour easy chair and said OK now do the job. thats insane. one last thing any program that take sasomething as complex as education and claims “it works for everybody” is and should be regarde immediately with suspicion.