'Sola Caritas' Trumps 'Sola fide'

[TULIPed]

willed that as Jesus is our mediator to the Father, that Jesus being one in the Trinity although merciful, is honored when we place all in her hands ( Mary becomes our Mediatrix so that Jesus is honored all the more by our humilty which is the foundation of all virtues when we chose to consecrate ourselves to Jesus through Mary.

Could you please point out in the RCC where this is discussed? Thanks.

 

[De_Maria]

Your popes held the same basic view,

Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.

that divorce was condemned in scripture, but bigamy was not.

Romans 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

This is bigamy, condemned in Scripture.

 

[JonNC]

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

This is bigamy, condemned in Scripture.

Well, there you are, condemning the OT patriarchs.
Oddly, you agree with Luther’s quotes above.
Imagine that.

 

[mcq72]

Would it be possible for the Church to create a Tradition that was in opposition to Scripture? (

Not a very high bar, to not be opposed to scripture…i mean there really might be a man in the moon and not be opposed to scripture.

 

[Alex4Mary]

St Louis de Montfort in his book the True devotion to Mary explains all of this. Which is supported and Authorized by the Roman Catholic Church. Unfortunately if you are looking for it verbatim in the Rcc you will not find it in full. But I believe the basics is I found at 963.

 

[mcq72]

The thousands of different Protestant beliefs ‘prove’ that truth does not come from scripture alone.

That is like saying that some popes were really bad, and I will skip the details for charity sake, so that proves Christ couldn’t have instituted such a permanent office.

I don’t say that for it not proof, as I say your contention is not either.

Cain failed miserably but i don’t then discount the method of truth conveyance, given to both Cain and Abel.

 

[De_Maria]

De_Maria:

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

This is bigamy, condemned in Scripture.

Well, there you are, condemning the OT patriarchs.
Oddly, you agree with Luther’s quotes above.
Imagine that.

Jesus Christ corrected the Old Testament custom.

Matthew 5:32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

The logic is clear, if it is even a sin to marry a divorced person, then it is a worse sin to marry a person who is still married.

 

[mcq72]

People that no one cares about anymore, just footnotes in a long history of every man thinking he is smarter than Christ who only has one church.

Man, you make Huss and Wycliffe sound like roadkill, on the righteous path to the celestial city by the invincible marching saints…you maintain symptoms of the measles of that time.

 

[TULIPed]

Exactly.

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[JonNC]

Jesus Christ corrected the Old Testament custom.

Matthew 5:32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

The logic is clear, if it is even a sin to marry a divorced person, then it is a worse sin to marry a person who is still married.

I don’t think you and I disagree (oddly enough), but that doesn’t change the fact, during the Reformation era, popes and reformers and theologians shared a view we reject.

 

[JonNC]

The thousands of different Protestant beliefs ‘prove’ that truth does not come from scripture alone.

There is actually no such thing. There are Lutheran beliefs and Calvinist beliefs, etc, but there is no Protestant church, and there never has been.

 

[De_Maria]

I don’t think you and I disagree (oddly enough), but that doesn’t change the fact, during the Reformation era, popes and reformers and theologians shared a view we reject.

There is no evidence that Popes believed that satanic doctrine. There is proof that Luther did, s you’ve proved…

 

[De_Maria]

dopeyMS:

The thousands of different Protestant beliefs ‘prove’ that truth does not come from scripture alone.

There is actually no such thing. There are Lutheran beliefs and Calvinist beliefs, etc, but there is no Protestant church, and there never has been.

As a child, I lived for ten years of my life, 2 blocks from a Church whose sign said, “Protestant Church”.

Here’s one that advertises on the internet:

First Protestant Church Of New Braunfels – A spiritual home at the heart of the New Braunfels

 

[Wannano]

JonNC:

dopeyMS:

The thousands of different Protestant beliefs ‘prove’ that truth does not come from scripture alone.

There is actually no such thing. There are Lutheran beliefs and Calvinist beliefs, etc, but there is no Protestant church, and there never has been.

As a child, I lived for ten years of my life, 2 blocks from a Church whose sign said, “Protestant Church”.

Here’s one that advertises on the internet:

https://firstprotestant.com/

So you are seeing it as a visible Church that exists?!

 

[dopeyMS]

Christ has only one church with an East and a West. The reformers left 500 years ago and now their children are paying the ultimate price with a broken faith.

 

[dopeyMS]

There is actually no such thing. There are Lutheran beliefs and Calvinist beliefs, etc, but there is no Protestant church, and there never has been.

For simplicity’s sake all the thousands of Protestant beliefs can be boiled down into Arminian, Lutheran and Calvinist. Now of course there are some that don’t fit the mold by 95% do.

 

[De_Maria]

De_Maria:

JonNC:

dopeyMS:

The thousands of different Protestant beliefs ‘prove’ that truth does not come from scripture alone.

There is actually no such thing. There are Lutheran beliefs and Calvinist beliefs, etc, but there is no Protestant church, and there never has been.

As a child, I lived for ten years of my life, 2 blocks from a Church whose sign said, “Protestant Church”.

Here’s one that advertises on the internet:

https://firstprotestant.com/

So you are seeing it as a visible Church that exists?!

A visible protestant church that exists, yes. Not the True Church which Jesus established, but one which is descended of Luther’s rebellion.

 

[mcq72]

For simplicity’s sake all the thousands of Protestant beliefs can be boiled down into Arminian, Lutheran and Calvinist. Now of course there are some that don’t fit the mold by 95% do.

Now you see why spouting division of 30,000 beliefs is ludicrous.

 

[mcq72]

A visible protestant church that exists, yes. Not the True Church which Jesus established, but one which is descended of Luther’s rebellion.

Yes we are Korahs to you…the flip side is the stiff necked leaders/ magisteriums who persecuted true prophets of God…two antecedents from OT carried out into new, also from which to humbly examine oneself…that is that the same God ordained leadership (Jews/Israel now Church) at one time rightly eschewed rebels/heretics could then later persecute/kill true prophets/reformers from God.

Who is the true rebel is to humbly be discerned, and as one posted earlier, God will separate wheat from chaff in that great day.

 

[JonNC]

A visible protestant church that exists, yes. Not the True Church which Jesus established, but one which is descended of Luther’s rebellion.

There is only one visible Church. It consists of all of us, gathered around word and sacrament.