Sola Scriptura is True

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But no, the Bible is all you need! That’s why we have all the various versions of sola scriptura churches floating around, that can’t even agree. They say they agree on the essentials, yet they all don’t even agree on what is “essential”, and the Bible never makes a distinction between essential and non-essential doctrines. So much for the Bible being all you need.
SIN is the reason we have people lying about what the scriptures mean.

There is only one valid interpretation of scripture the rest are lies. So through the sins of pride, selfishness, cowardice, sloth, and betrayal we have more than one interpretation circulating around the Church Universal.
 
from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
This could only be talking about the OT Scriptures since, when Timothy would have been a child, there would have been no New Testament.

Again, you ignore a key word: AND. St. Paul tells him to remember what he has learned (oral tradition…since this learning occurred prior to this letter). Again, the idea that Scripture + other learnings are necessary.
There is only one valid interpretation of scripture the rest are lies. So through the sins of pride, selfishness, cowardice, sloth, and betrayal we have more than one interpretation circulation around the Church Universal.
Well, if you are so sure your interpretation is correct, then that makes you a prideful idiot.
 
SIN is the reason we have people lying about what the scriptures mean.

There is only one valid interpretation of scripture the rest are lies. So through the sins of pride, selfishness, cowardice, sloth, and betrayal we have more than one interpretation circulating around the Church Universal.
How do we know who’s lying? Look on CARM, there are all types of Protestant over there arguing about various beliefs. They fervently believe that their interpretation is true. They all claim to be “born again”.

Then there’s the whole thing about the Bible never making a division between essential and non-essential beliefs, yet this is what many/most sola scriptura people I have encountered say.

Talk about mini-popes. 🤷
 
Okay, so, what have we learned? One person says one thing, one person says the opposite. Even if one is wrong, this disproves Sola Scriptura. By starting this thread and allowing debate you show how it fails.
Here is where he fails to understand. A man of God in this context, like Timothy were taught since infancy regarding the Scriptures. He was a deacon, a student of Paul, so was still being taught. So a person who understands the scriptures after being taught the correct way, was a teacher of the Church, may be completed for the task using Scripture without twisting it when teaching the faithful. Any Priest I know does this. He would be fitted appropriately for the occasion of teaching, rebuking and correcting using His Bible. So if he can use His Bible to defend the Papacy, then great. DD2007 loves to insist he’s a man of God with perfect knowledge and understanding of Scripture to do this. And even he admitted to the implicitness of certain basic Doctrines in Scripture meaning that if one is taught properly, (eg Immaculate Conception), it may complete the teacher when teaching the faithful. But Scripture alone is useless without knowing what you’re teaching. And any Jon doe merely praying to the Holy Spirit, doesn’t have that ability as much as he’d loooove to think. The many doctrines of protestantism will attest to that.
 
SIN is the reason we have people lying about what the scriptures mean.

There is only one valid interpretation of scripture the rest are lies. So through the sins of pride, selfishness, cowardice, sloth, and betrayal we have more than one interpretation circulating around the Church Universal.
If you’re none of those, then you just proclaimed yourself to be infallible. Keep dreaming.
 
This could only be talking about the OT Scriptures since, when Timothy would have been a child, there would have been no New Testament.
He first said to consult the scriptures that Timothy had been aquainted with from his youth, then he went on to say tha ALL scripture is inspired by God. To say that the Holy Spirit didn’t mean ALL scripture but only the Old Testament is to deny that the New Testament is inspired. That would be against the teachings of teh RCC who gave an anathema at trent to all who didn;t include the 27 books of teh New Testament in the canon of sacred scripture.
Again, you ignore a key word: AND. St. Paul tells him to remember what he has learned (oral tradition…since this learning occurred prior to this letter). Again, the idea that Scripture + other learnings are necessary.
He said from whome you learned it. Meaing himself. He was an apostle of God. We have already covered the status of prophets and apostles as the spokesmen for God. They wrote, dictated or blessed all of the books of the bible under inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
 
If you’re none of those, then you just proclaimed yourself to be infallible. Keep dreaming.
The bible is the only infallible thing we have on earth. We are all flawed but God’s words are true.

John 17:17 ESV
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
 
He first said to consult the scriptures that Timothy had been aquainted with from his youth, then he went on to say tha ALL scripture is inspired by God. To say that the Holy Spirit didn’t mean ALL scripture but only the Old Testament is to deny that the New Testament is inspired. That would be against the teachings of teh RCC who gave an anathema at trent to all who didn;t include the 27 books of teh New Testament in the canon of sacred scripture.
No, see, this is why we cannot believe you when you talk on behalf of God. You get Catholic things wrong, and therefore, you cannot be right when you are talking about God. This is not true; this is faulty logic on your part, but, this is what you want to believe so you make it fit your truth. Stop it.
The bible is the only infallible thing we have on earth. We are all flawed but God’s words are true.
No. The Pope is infallible. The Bible is inerrant. It contains no error. There’s a distinction.
 
The bible is the only infallible thing we have on earth. We are all flawed but God’s words are true.

John 17:17 ESV
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
Well, then who has the right interpretation? It comes down to authority. An infallible document poorly interpreted leads to a mess, as all of Protestantism shows.
 
Here is where he fails to understand. A man of God in this context, like Timothy were taught since infancy regarding the Scriptures. He was a deacon, a student of Paul, so was still being taught. So a person who understands the scriptures after being taught the correct way, was a teacher of the Church, may be completed for the task using Scripture without twisting it when teaching the faithful. Any Priest I know does this. He would be fitted appropriately for the occasion of teaching, rebuking and correcting using His Bible. So if he can use His Bible to defend the Papacy, then great. DD2007 loves to insist he’s a man of God with perfect knowledge and understanding of Scripture to do this. And even he admitted to the implicitness of certain basic Doctrines in Scripture meaning that if one is taught properly, (eg Immaculate Conception), it may complete the teacher when teaching the faithful. But Scripture alone is useless without knowing what you’re teaching. And any Jon doe merely praying to the Holy Spirit, doesn’t have that ability as much as he’d loooove to think. The many doctrines of protestantism will attest to that.
No one can really understand the scriptures unless they are regenerated.

1 Corinthians 2:14 ESV
14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

All pastors are under scriptural edict to rightly handle the word.

2 Timothy 2:15 ESV
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

Rome’s failure to do that is the reason we had the Reformation. If one who calls himself a christian won’t handle the word correctly God will use another who is a Christian.
 
Well, then who has the right interpretation? It comes down to authority. An infallible document poorly interpreted leads to a mess, as all of Protestantism shows.
No institution on earth has a completely correct theology. The bible is completely correct, but as long as there are humans involved with it there will be interpretive questions.

The one I believe is least error ridden is the Reformed position.
 
The bible is the only infallible thing we have on earth. We are all flawed but God’s words are true.

John 17:17 ESV
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
So the Apostles at the time they wrote Scripture were not infallible? Interesting.

And if you are pridful, sinful, etc. like you said as the reason that your protestant brethren cannot all agree, then you’ve no right to teach since you can be in error when interpreting.
 
No one can really understand the scriptures unless they are regenerated.

1 Corinthians 2:14 ESV
14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

All pastors are under scriptural edict to rightly handle the word.

2 Timothy 2:15 ESV
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

Rome’s failure to do that is the reason we had the Reformation. If one who calls himself a christian won’t handle the word correctly God will use another who is a Christian.
Well, apparently everyone but you is handling it wrongly? IS THAT IT YOU PRIDEFULLY IGNORANT PROTESTANT? EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH HAS IT WRONG BUT YOU? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? YOU HAVE AN OPINION AND THAT IS IT! EVEN BY SOLA SCRIPTURA, YOU ARE NOT SCRIPTURE, YOU ARE JUST A POORLY SCHOOLED DEBATER! YOU FAIL IN LOGIC AND IN HISTORY, YET CLAIM EVERYONE ELSE HAS IT WRONG!
The one I believe is least error free is the Reformed position.
So, it all comes down to what you ‘believe’?! Who cares what you believe? Calvin was not Scripture and he certainly disagreed with every other Reformer but himself.
 
No, see, this is why we cannot believe you when you talk on behalf of God. You get Catholic things wrong, and therefore, you cannot be right when you are talking about God. This is not true; this is faulty logic on your part, but, this is what you want to believe so you make it fit your truth. Stop it.
Here is a quote from Trent to prove I’m not lying to you:

“But if any one receive not, as sacred and canonical, the said books entire with all their parts, as they have been used to be read in the Catholic Church, and as they are contained in the old Latin vulgate edition; and knowingly and deliberately contemn the traditions aforesaid; let him be anathema.”

Link: bible-researcher.com/trent1.html
 
Well, apparently everyone but you is handling it wrongly? IS THAT IT YOU PRIDEFULLY IGNORANT PROTESTANT? EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH HAS IT WRONG BUT YOU? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? YOU HAVE AN OPINION AND THAT IS IT! EVEN BY SOLA SCRIPTURA, YOU ARE NOT SCRIPTURE, YOU ARE JUST A POORLY SCHOOLED DEBATER! YOU FAIL IN LOGIC AND IN HISTORY, YET CLAIM EVERYONE ELSE HAS IT WRONG!

So, it all comes down to what you ‘believe’?! Who cares what you believe? Calvin was not Scripture and he certainly disagreed with every other Reformer but himself.
John 17:17 ESV
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

The truth is in God’s word.
 
John 17:17 ESV
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

The truth is in God’s word.
and apparently there are a many Protestants that disagree on the interpretation of that truth. Clearly the Bible isn’t all that you need, and again (we know you don’t agree), God’s word isn’t only in written form. The fact that Protestants believing in sola scriptura come to various conclusions from God’s word is all that we need to know.

So all of them are liars except you?
 
No institution on earth has a completely correct theology. The bible is completely correct, but as long as there are humans involved with it there will be interpretive questions.
Oh. Oh good. Well, we solved this then, as long as nobody reads the Bible, all will be well.
Here is a quote from Trent to prove I’m not lying to you:

“But if any one receive not, as sacred and canonical, the said books entire with all their parts, as they have been used to be read in the Catholic Church, and as they are contained in the old Latin vulgate edition; and knowingly and deliberately contemn the traditions aforesaid; let him be anathema.”

Link: bible-researcher.com/trent1.html
I accept the truth at Trent. What is wrong is you’re saying the Timothy passage has to do with the New Testament and this was implying Trent. You’re making logical leaps which do not have any connections.
 
All pastors are under scriptural edict to rightly handle the word.

2 Timothy 2:15 ESV
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
These were all instructions to Timothy, brought into the priesthood by having hands laid on him. They weren’t letters written and meant for all the Christians everywhere and anywhere.

14 Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood.
All pastors are under scriptural edict to rightly handle the word.
Only if they are taught by one of the Apostles or their successors. 😉

As you said, they are sinful and prideful so they can’t ever handle the word correctly since they only now go by intpretation. I don’t trust them any more than I do myself when trying to know exactly what God is saying through Scripture 2000 years ago so you fail here to make any sense again.
 
and apparently there are a many Protestants that disagree on the interpretation of that truth. Clearly the Bible isn’t all that you need, and again (we know you don’t agree), God’s word isn’t only in written form. The fact that Protestants believing in sola scriptura come to various conclusions from God’s word is all that we need to know.

So all of them are liars except you?
Yes. What we must understand is that DD2007 is a Calvinist.
 
John 17:17 ESV
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

The truth is in God’s word.
At the time Jesus uttered these words, there was no New Testament–St. Paul was still a Pharisaic Jew and the Gospels could not have been complete since more is recorded afterwards.
 
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