Sola Scriptura questions

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jericho777 said:
When I was Catholic I was unaware of these things I was clueless to what the bible contained.
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Yes, there are many poorly catechized Catholics. The Catholic Church has done an abysmal job in the past catechizing her flock. :sad_yes:
When you are making rules condemning men to hell for not following them they should be unchangeable to the whims of men, if they really were from God
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This is an example of the very poor catechesis you received. You did not know the faith in which you left. The Catholic Church does not have the power to condemn anyone to hell, nor does it claim to have this authority.

If you are insistent that this is what the Catholic Church proclaims, please provide a church document that states this. (You can search this website: papalencyclicals.net; that might assist you in your search, jericho.)
 
Originally Posted by jericho777
When I was Catholic I was unaware of these things I was clueless to what the bible contained
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No offense,but you still seem clueless at times to what the Bible contains and teaches. Can you please tell me where Jesus taught written scripture contains all that one needs for salvation?
 
jericho777 said:
The CC’s disciplines are not biblical.
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Can you please cite an example of a discipline you find unbiblical?

Also, can you please provide a verse in Scripture that says that everything we know about God must be found in the Bible? Chapter and verse, please!

If you cannot, then you are following a man-made tradition you’ve just believed from listening to your fallible pastor. You’ve not read this in any pages of the Bible.
David said “I was conceived in sin” and “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.”
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Indeed. An infallible proclamation by David, is it not? 😃
So according to the bible our personhood is from conception forward. Anything that would destroy that would be murder in the first degree. That‘s what the bible says you may have a different opinion on that.
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The Bible says nothing about a stem cell being a person. In fact, it is not a person at all.

Embryonic stem cells are derived from tiny human persons.

But the Bible says nothing at all about this, does it?
 
onenow1 said:
Jricho, 2 Timothy, I would suggest is proving to much, if it were as simple as that there would be no need for the NT. further Jesus Himself wrote absolutely nothing nor commanded the Apostles, or disciples, to do so.

John 21: 25 not all is recorded in scripture,
=onenow1, I would also suggest the above includes the OT. We can be certain St.John, was very familiar with both testaments; And that reminds me the NT isTradition, written apprx. 20 to 40 yrs after Jesus as is the OT written after the fact.
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PRmerger said:
If these men did not write infallibly, please direct us to the verses in Scripture you consider to be in error theologically. Chapter and verse, please!
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All scripture is God breathed. The authors were never infallible . Infallibility is an attribute only of God. It was Gods’ sovereign will that ordained apart from men what they they would write as His word.
 
Nicea325 said:
Where does Jesus or the Apostles teach all that is needed for faith and salvation is contained in scripture? Strange how Jesus never wrote anything and yet according to you scripture contains everything needed for faith and salvation?
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Paul declares it to be so!
 
Nicea325 said:
No offense,but you still seem clueless at times to what the Bible contains and teaches. Can you please tell me where Jesus taught written scripture contains all that one needs for salvation?
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Indeed. This is a very important question for jericho to answer.

I don’t think he/she’s ever considered the fact that this is a man-made tradition he has not read anywhere in the pages of the Sacred Scriptures.

If St. Paul is telling Timothy that everything he needs for his salvation is found in the Scriptures, then clearly he is referring to the Old Testament.

I doubt that jericho believes that the OT is the sole rule of faith for Christians.
 
PRmerger said:
Yes, there are many poorly catechized Catholics. The Catholic Church has done an abysmal job in the past catechizing her flock. :sad_yes:

This is an example of the very poor catechesis you received. You did not know the faith in which you left. The Catholic Church does not have the power to condemn anyone to hell, nor does it claim to have this authority.

If you are insistent that this is what the Catholic Church proclaims, please provide a church document that states this. (You can search this website: papalencyclicals.net; that might assist you in your search, jericho.)
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I did everything I was taught without question.

I am told this is part of binding and loosing by people on this site.
 
jericho777 said:
All scripture is God breathed. The authors were never infallible . Infallibility is an attribute only of God. It was Gods’ sovereign will that ordained apart from men what they they would write as His word.
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Then tell us where the error(s) are theologically, spiritually in the Scriptures.

Book, chapter and verse, please!
 
jericho777 said:
I did everything I was taught without question.
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Ok. But this was not a teaching of the Catholic Church.
I am told this is part of binding and loosing by people on this site.
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Doing everything that is taught without question? Nope. That is not part of the teaching of the CC.

If you are insistent that this is, please cite the church document that proclaims this. Perhaps you can search the Catechism to find if the church proclaims “do everything we say without question.” Try this website: scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p4.htm#892
 
PRmerger said:
The Bible says nothing about a stem cell being a person. In fact, it is not a person at all.

Embryonic stem cells are derived from tiny human persons.

But the Bible says nothing at all about this, does it?
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The bible declares personhood begins at conception. If you destroy that human life ie abortion/stem cell you are commiting murder.
 
jericho777 said:
The bible declares personhood begins at conception. If you destroy that human life ie abortion/stem cell you are commiting murder.
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Amen.

The Bible does not mention embryonic stem cells, just as it doesn’t mention purgatory.

But the principle is there, eh?
 
PRmerger said:
Ok. But this was not a teaching of the Catholic Church.

Doing everything that is taught without question? Nope. That is not part of the teaching of the CC.

If you are insistent that this is, please cite the church document that proclaims this. Perhaps you can search the Catechism to find if the church proclaims “do everything we say without question.” Try this website: scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p4.htm#892
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Hey I was a kid then. You try telling the nuns you think the church is in error. 😃
 
jericho777 said:
I am not aware of any maybe you would know.
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Incidentally, are there any errors in the canon of Scripture? That is, do you think that Revelation ought not be part of the Bible? Do you believe that the Shepherd of Hermes should?

And how do you know what belongs in Scripture and what doesn’t?

Remember, one cannot answer this question with the nonsensical: I know it’s inspired because it’s in the bible; and I know it’s in the bible because it’s inspired.
 
PRmerger said:
Amen.

The Bible does not mention embryonic stem cells, just as it doesn’t mention purgatory.

But the principle is there, eh?
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It doesn’t have to we know that personhood comes at conception and destruction of that is murder. Your right there is no purgatory. 👍
 
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