Some think Matthew 4:4 is teaching sola Scriptura

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I take it you are young. This is not team sports. This is not a betting man’s game.

This is about a quest for revealed truth and a loving relationship with one’s Creator via the Church which He founded for the salvation of mankind.

Christ taught humility. Yet, He gave all authority to His Church.

All authority.

His Church predates the bible; wrote the bible - and alone retains the God-given authority to transmit, definitively, what that writing means.

I know you think differently - that is why those here interacting with you are trying to set the record straight.
 
Matthew 4:4 “He answered, It is written, Man cannot live by bread only; there is life
for him in all the words which proceed from the mouth of God.”
The bible states clearly and unequivocally that all of the “words” of God are not in it. Where are they? Who can tell them?

Not the bible.

Then who?

Where?
Luke 10:16 “He who hears you hears Me”
 
I know you think differently - that is why those here interacting with you are trying to set the record straight.
No, that’s why I am trying to set the record straight. In my youth I did follow blindly and did not question what was taught, but as I got older I started to ask questions and things just did not add up.
I was then lead to a place where I was not spoon feed traditions with no basis, I was taught the Word of God, not the thoughts of men.
 
Luke 10:16 “He who hears you hears Me”
I think you better go back and post the whole verse, and while you’re at it add a couple of the verses prior to get the true context of what Christ is saying here.

Just some advise from a young-buck.
If you take the “text” out of context you get "con"ned
 
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So, all of those who are far superior to everyone here, who sought the truth and converted to the Catholic Church at great personal cost are nincompoops and you alone possess all wisdom, all knowledge, all truth?

Please ponder what you are asserting.
 
So, all of those who are far superior to everyone here, who sought the truth and converted to the Catholic Church at great personal cost are nincompoops and you alone possess all wisdom, all knowledge, all truth?

Please ponder what you are asserting.
I was taught what the Catholic church had to offer and I found it lacking.
So I found a church that teaches the unadulterated truth, and that’s the Bible, no traditions.
 
I take it you are young. This is not team sports. This is not a betting man’s game.
Hebrews 5:12-14
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers [because of the time you have had to learn these truths], you actually need someone to teach you again the elementary principles of God’s word [from the beginning], and you have come to be continually in need of milk, not solid food. 13 For everyone who lives on milk is [doctrinally inexperienced and] unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a spiritual infant. 14 But solid food is for the [spiritually] mature, whose senses are trained by practice to distinguish between what is morally good and what is evil.
 
I take it you are young. This is not team sports. This is not a betting man’s game.
1 Timothy 4:12-13
12 Let no one look down on [you because of] your youth, but be an example and set a pattern for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, and in [moral] purity. 13 Until I come, devote yourself to public reading [of Scripture], to preaching and to teaching [the sound doctrine of God’s word].
 
Who “taught” you? Anti-Catholics? Yeah…

Do not condemn what you simply fail to understand - there is a life lesson here. And the problem could not be you? Think of what you are saying!

1.25 billion living Catholics, among them the greatest theologians, scripture scholars, historians and writers on earth…

And they are all wrong and YOU are right.

Wow.

OK, but you seem to be living proof of the failure of bible alone.
 
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You got that right you don’t even have answers
Then maybe you should stop asking questions. If you don’t like what I have to say stop commenting on my posts; you do have free will you know.
Actually I like what you post as it is so easy to refute with scripture. If you don’t like being questioned then present evidence you can defend.
 
Rhetorical questions: OK, so what is this intended to prove? Do you declare yourself (ego?) to be spiritually mature? Do you declare yourself (ego?) to be well-trained? Do you declare yourself (ego?) to know what others do not? Do you declare yourself (ego?) to be more enlightened than 1.25 billion living Catholics?

Really?

Wow.

I know nothing except what the Church founded by Christ teaches. Period.

I have no idea where your “knowledge” comes from - nor do I want to know. I simply know that some of it is correct, but much of it is simply wrong. You are going to have to live with that - just as I did before I became Catholic.

Anyway, I am wasting our time, as you are convinced. Good luck with your theology.
 
New church, huh? What was wrong with the old one? How do you know this one is any better?

And, pastor was using the Catholic bible, so that much is true. The rest he is making up. Guaranteed.
 
Really? So where is the Scripture for christening of infants? all examples of baptism in the Bible have been of adults who where immersed in water not children being sprinkled with water.
First post one scripture example teaching baptism of all adults was done by being immersed? Also post one scripture teaching infants are born again at birth and not born of flesh only, at birth? Even the majority of Protestants baptize infants.
Last I checked that Bible only references Christ as the only absolver of sins under the new covenant not man,
JL: Scripture tells us Sacraments are the normative way Christ forgives sins in the new covenant?

Sacrament of Baptism remits sin;

[Eph5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,]

[Acts22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.]

[Acts2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them , repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.]

Sacrament of Reconciliation or Confession remits sin;

[Jn20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.]

[Acts 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.]

[2Cor2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;]

Sacrament of Anointing of sick remits;

[Jms5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.]
 
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I have read your first post and I will like to put in my 5 cents worth. I sense what this scripture is telling us is we are need of truth. It is not enough just to partake of food even the bread of Heaven within our Communion elements. Truth must accompany Bread! So what is truth? Holy Scripture is one source, the catechism of the Church is another source, the experiences which teaches us truth. So Jesus is saying we need to come to know the truth if we are to live out what the Bread of Heaven will give to us. In other words which I think is the most important source, it is the acquisition of the Holy Spirit and to be led by His inspirations and life. So I do not think this verse will qualify for the teaching on Sola Scriptura.
 
Speaking of egos, the NT was written by, for and about CHRISTIANS.
There is no distinction between the two. All Christians were Catholic until 1054.
Again, please find me the word “Catholic” in the Scripture.
Acts 9:31, but that is irrelevant. It is like saying “find me the word Trinity in scripture”. It is a nonsense idea.
My Pastor.
Ok, link me to your Pastor’s bio. I will be able to determine if there was any “contamination” from sacred tradition. Where did the pastor attend seminary?
No, you just don’t agree with my answers.
What is there with which one can “disagree”? How was the NT formed, for example?
If you don’t like what I have to say stop commenting on my posts; you do have free will you know.
It is not a matter of liking or not liking. It is a matter of you not being able to substantiate your assertions. How can you prove that your pastor, for example, was not influenced by Sacred Tradition?
Additionally, Christ frequently taught against sacred tradition rather than upholding it, demonstrating that sacred tradition does not carry an infallible authority.
No. Christ taught against human traditions. Jesus Himself is the Source of Sacred Tradition (the Word of God). He is Himself infallible authority.

If you can’t tell the difference between the Word of God and human traditions, then there is no point trying to have this discussion.

If you don’t believe that the Word of God exists that has not been written, then you don’t accept what is in the Bible, and there is also little point in trying to have this discussion.
I was taught what the Catholic church had to offer and I found it lacking.
This is not likely. It is more likely you were left with a childhood level of catechesis. If you had been taught what the CC teaches, you would not have retained so much ignorance about it! Were you ever confirmed?
 
Which is indistinguishable from sacred
No. Christ taught against human traditions. Jesus Himself is the Source of Sacred Tradition (the Word of God). He is Himself infallible authority.
Agree, and the source of Christ teachings that we currently have in our possession is the scripture. Again, feel free to infallibly define a teaching of Christ not contained in scripture and demonstrate the path of transmission from which it came.
 
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