Sondland changes everything

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More than that, you’d think Obama would have authorized the money as requested years ago. Thank goodness for Ukraine Trump did.
 
After, you know, delaying it for a period of time in return for special favors.

It’s my understanding the aid was authorized by Congress, not Trump.
 
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And all he wanted was some personal help on his campaign in exchange for it
 
No lethal-weapons to Ukraine under Obama, Trump admin gave them such, javelin tank-busting missiles. So, that’s more like for defense but important still.
 
Bipartisan Congress voted for that. He signed it.
It has nothing to do with the quid pro quo
 
Victoria33 said:
No lethal-weapons to Ukraine under Obama, Trump admin gave them such, javelin tank-busting missiles. So, that’s more like for defense but important still.
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Just saying ‘hey they got their aid didn’t they?’ elides over a lot of worrisome behavior at the top of the administration.
 
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Just saying ‘hey they got their aid didn’t they?’ elides over a lot of worrisome behavior at the top of the administration
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They should have gotten their aid for the most part.

Egypt had to get a waiver on human rights to get their aid.

Maybe, some Central American countries were threatened with no aid if they did not do more against illegal immigration. It really is a matter to study. That almost sounds like a ‘quid pro quo’ too.

I hope Ukraine did not miss out on some needed weapons over a delay. I don’t think so.
 
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Gordan Sondland’s testimony is the game changer.
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It should be, just not the way you imagine:

Rep Mike Turner: “Mr. Sondland, let’s be clear: no one on this planet—not Donald Trump, Rudy Guiliani, Mick Mulvaney, Mike Pompeo—no one told you aid was tied to political investigations, is that correct.”

Gordon Sondland: “That’s correct.”

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Sondland: “Now, there are people who say they had concerns about the call—but no one shared any concerns about the call with me at the time,”
 
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More than that,
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It’s good you as a businessman appreciate timely payments to help your cash flow. (Earlier this year I believe Trump’s government shutdown affected your company?) This is of course secondary to the national security of one of our allies.
 
What a waste of time and money.Should be over but we all know it won’t be…:woman_facepalming:t2:
 
Trump illegally withheld aid for no authentic reason. Thats clear right now.
 
Haa,Justvwatched Jim Jordan take Sondland down . He just exonerated Trump and the Dems have egg on their face.Gotta love it.
 
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