Soviet Union Rewind: Why Are We Praising Communism Again?

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All those people involved are dead or almost dead. I am not sure the relevancy now to young people. But the residuals of the initial propping up lingers.
 
I would suggest it established and identified a Constitutional right states could not abridge.
 
I’ve got a bridge to sell you my friend…

Whoever is telling you communism and socialism are wonderful utopias is someone you should run far away from.
 
Where is the line drawn? 12oz? 24oz? One refill? Two refills? Why should government have any say in how much soda you can or cannot drink regardless if the refills?

Edit…oh and it’s just the mean old nasty SODA companies selling their evil sugar of death that get hurt, soooooo its it’s okay.
 
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Yes. He will continue to work to undermine our constitutional liberties to the point where we will no longer recognize our country for what it was founded on and open the door for tyranny.
 
All it takes is to remove our constitutionally protected liberties… the right to free speech (hate speech will be illegal so once those in power who despise it will use it to shut down the opposition), the right to bear arms (a gun free public is much easier to control). Things like these are steps that make it easier towards setting up conditions where if someone like Stalin or Hitler were to rise could easily devolve into tyranny quickly…but hey … who am I to look at history…
 
Sanders…maybe not a dictator per se but anyone who wants to move the meter from more freedom to less freedom is no friend to our liberties and is opening the door for a true dictator to seize power. More liberty in the hands of the people is a protective barrier from that happening.
 
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So you think live saving drugs going up 300% on one year is controlled capitalism ?

The market doesn’t reflect healthcare as you like to believe for there is no choice in most cases when health is at issue.

If you’re having a heart attack, you don’t get to check the pricing at the various hospitals and then direct the ambulance driver to take you to the one you choose.

Insurance companies do get to offer you the policies they want to. Where did you get the idea that they offer what’s in the best interest of the patient ? Heck, they tell the doctors what they’ll pay for and what they won’t.
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Insurance companies offer you the policies required of them by the ACA. Which in case you forgot, was never written with us in mind. Insurance companies are not allowed to offer any other policies. That’s predatory regulatory capture for you, the kind that favors them and disfavors us.

You forget how the industry conspired with Congress to stack the deck against us. You choose to ignore how the industry completely ignores the Sherman Anti-trust Act and the Robinson Patman Act and gets away with it because Congress and the DOJ, having regulated the industry to the benefit of their corporate cronies, then sits on their hands and looks the other way while those cronies screw us.
 
Who is praising communism? Beyond some fringe Tankie (ML and MLM) groups and the odd AnCom, who is actually pushing for a revolution? Sanders doesn’t even really qualify as a democratic socialist, strictly speaking he’s a social democrat which is a position to the RIGHT of democratic socialism.

I think the problem is, is that similar to here in the UK the Overton window has drifted steadily to the right over time. In the US it seems that it’s so far to the right that something as uncontroversial (in western Europe) as universal healthcare seems like full blown communism.
 
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I haven’t seen Trump write a bill banning late term abortions either.

Trump doesn’t think deeply about most social issues, only economic issues which will effect his finances and that of people like him.
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So why have so many abortion clinics closed across the country? The answer is their funding has been cut remember?
 
The law was repealed.

As far as I know you could order a fishbowl full of soda at a New York restaurant.
 
Because women now have health insurance and go to their primary care physician and also are being educated in school about the risk of unsafe sex
 
Accusing me if ignoring how the insurance industry constructed the ACA is a little insulting

I was on Romneycare and Obamacare and most likely have more knowledge of the system than you do.

Also, before ACA, the insurance companies in various states were selling policies where they could drop coverage at will and did so to people when they or their loved one ended up with an expensive medical condition.

When Hillary Clinton was 1st Lady and came up with what is called, Hillarycare, a Single Payer Universal Healthcare system, the propaganda rocked the news outlets and was all paid for by the insurance lobby. That same insurance lobby is the same people who pushed for Obamacare.

Yes, a “for profit,” healthcare system is doomed to fail, regardless of what you call it. There is no such thing as a free market in healthcare, that’s a myth.
 
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Yes, a “for profit,” healthcare system is doomed to fail, regardless of what you call it. There is no such thing as a free market in healthcare, that’s a myth.
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I agree with you that there is no such thing as a free market in healthcare. But for very different reasons from you. Perhaps you haven’t been paying attention to the corporate cronies who have Congress in their pockets. The insurance companies went along for the mandated markets.

In what world do you think those corporate cronies will allow Congress to cut them out of the action that takes place when MFA is getting written?
 
There’s no free market in healthcare because when you need healthcare services, like being treated for a heart attack or some other serious illness, you don’t get to to shop for the hospital that gives the best bang for the buck and when you find one, tell the ambulance driver to take you that one.

Most people want to go to the hospital that’s closest to them and that’s usually the only one in the area anyway

Most people want a doctor who is close by, but is also attached to the hospital that they will go to if needing medical care.

Insurance Companies are the biggest source for putting out propaganda to defeat a single payer universal healthcare system. They did it when Hillary Clinton tried back in the 90s and they’re doing it now by attacking Bernie Sanders as promoting communism.

Just take a look at the title of this thread ? The OP fed into the propaganda
 
I disagree that there is not some degree of free market in healthcare - with a certain degree of freedom in insurance options, consumers can choose which doctors or hospitals will treat them. And they can certainly change and shop around for primary health care physicians.
 
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I disagree that there is not some degree of free market in healthcare - with a certain degree of freedom in insurance options, consumers can choose which doctors or hospitals will treat them. And they can certainly change and shop around for primary health care physicians.
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Others have stated this before, and one might presume it to be a given, that people can choose. Yet so many instances are told of, where coverage is denied: for this doctor, or that technician, or that hospital, or that procedure.

So much for choosing, or being unknowingly treated by, the wrong service provider. Or placing the wrong bet on what medical condition you might need in the future.
 
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JimR-OCDS said:
There’s no free market in healthcare because when you need healthcare services, like being treated for a heart attack or some other serious illness, you don’t get to to shop for the hospital that gives the best bang for the buck and when you find one, tell the ambulance driver to take you that one.
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So there’s no choice in healthcare because there is no choice in emergency services. Yeah, I like your logic. Really sharp scintillating logic.
 
If one uses a strict definition of laissez faire, no, we don’t have a free market in health care. What we have is a hybrid system of private and public which, to somewhat quote John Medaille, combines the worst aspects of each.
 
I don’t know. When I see Donald Trump embrace communists like Vladimir Putin and Kim un Jung, I wonder what the fascination is? Putin was a Communist KGB operative during his days in the old Soviet Union. We know the North Korean dictator and his late Father to have done some horrible things to the people of that Communist nation.
As for Bernie Sanders, he is loved by Donald Trump, because Trump believes Sanders will be the easier Democrat to beat.
Truth be told, Trump and Sanders are much alike. They both like to yell, and use strange arm and hand motions when they address the zealot followers.
For all we know, Putin and his Russian mob is trying to help both Trump and Sanders. 🇷🇺
 
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