Here are links to a site that describes the baptism of the Holy Spirit in detail.
godsaidmansaid.com/topic3.asp?Cat2=244&ItemID=970 Part 1
I will start with this one. One of the errors I found on this page is:
(1.) Can we agree that, on the grounds of age, scholarship, geography, and weight of extant (existing) documents that the Authorized King James Version is the unquestioned authority? They answered “Yes.” (2.) Will you agree that no doctrine will be presented for consideration unless it can be fully supported in the Bible with chapter and verse? They answered “Yes.” One brother from our camp correctly deduced that all books except for the Bible had been eliminated.
The KJV does not have the primacy in age, scholarship, and weight of existing documents. It is a deficient translation for many reasons, one being that some of the books used by Jesus and the Apostles were removed.
Secondly, it is not appropriate to attempt to derive doctrine by “chapter and verse”… the complete doctrine was delivered whole and entire by Jesus to His Church. It was the Church that produced the scripture. The two are not to be separated from one another when understanding the gospel.
Thirdly, it is not productive to “eliminate all books except for the Bible”. Part of how we understand what the early church believed and practiced is by looking at these writings of the early church fathers. Eliminating these is counterproductive. Perhaps you find this necessary to support your claim of apostasy? How soon did it happen?
This next is from part II:
This necessary doctrine cannot be exaggerated. Receiving the Baptism with the Holy Ghost is the very first commandment given to the church. The ministry of the Holy Ghost and being personally baptized with the Holy Ghost are foundational to all the responsibilities of the Body of Christ. The Jewish feast of Pentecost, also known as the Feast of Weeks of Harvest, or of First Fruits, was a feast day similar to the American Thanksgiving. It was held the 50th day after Passover and it was the very day that God, through Christ Jesus, baptized the initial followers – the First Fruits – of Jesus Christ with the Holy Ghost. Pentecost is commonly known as the birthday of the church. The commandment to receive the baptism with the Holy Ghost is the last word spoken by the Lord and the first commandment given to the beginning church. Acts 1:6-9:
Except for the writer mispeaking himself by the use of the word “exaggerated” when he seems to mean “omitted”, this all is very consistent with the teaching of the Catholic Church.
The Baptism with the Holy Ghost is separate from the gift of salvation. It is certainly preferable to receive it the day one is born-again, but in numerous instances it is received at a future date. Even if one receives it on the day of his salvation, it is a distinctly different and separate experience.
The initial outpouring of the Holy Ghost took place in an upper room in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost. Those who were filled with the Holy Ghost were already believers in Christ, and had been previously baptized with water. Acts 2:1-4:
This is a misapplication of the word “salvation”. There is no separation between the Baptism in the HS and salvation. In fact, it salvation is not possible if they are separated. This formulation erroneously equates personal experience with spiritual reality. According to Apostolic Teaching, people are sealed by the promised Holy Spirit when they are baptized. They may not realize all the gifts and power they received at that time until later, but their personal experience does not alter the spritual reality.
From the day of Pentecost, the giving of the HS was never separated from water baptism until the Modern American Fundamentalist movement, beginning in 1930.
Acts 19:1-6 shows the Baptism with the Holy Ghost as distinctly separate from salvation. Also note that it declares three separate baptisms. It reads,
For Christians, this is not the case. Christians no longer have the “baptism of John”. Christ’s baptism, infused with the HS, fulfilled the baptism of repentance preached by John. The Apostles understood that the giving of the HS was not to be separated from water baptism.
The Apostles taught that there was ONE BAPTISM.
The word of God certainly settles this issue. Baptism with the Holy Ghost is a separate and distinct supernatural occurrence that follows the born-again experience.
Actually, what we have here is a human interpretation of the Word of God. I am sure it settles the issue for all who espouse this perspective, but it is not consistent with what the apostles believed, practiced, and taught.
Furthermore, the phrase “born again experience” begs definition. I maintain that this is an invention of the Modern American Fundamentalist movement, and is foreign to the Apostolic Teaching. The Apostles understood that the HS was at work in the baptismal waters.
As to the rest of this section, it is an error to assume that tongues is a requirement to demonstrate that a person has received a valid baptism. However, the point is well made that speaking in unknown tongues is one of the manifestations that the HS has fallen upon a person.
It had links to some good things, too. Sorry it didn’t work
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