This is basic stuff that you should know already.Newbie, give the scriptural reference for your assertion that "Prophetic books have what is called dual fulfillment."
If you can’t back it up with scripture, it ain’t True.
Sounds like personal interpretation, yessiree.
I know that. Any Christian knows that. but your doctrine that prophecy will twice happened is erroneous. I think you may have mis-worded your terminology to be quite honest.Jesus is coming for the SECOND time
The first fulfillment on the prophecy was in 32ad
The second fulfilment of the prophecy will be sometime in the near future. Does this clear it up for you?
And where is THAT (that the death of John closed the Canon) written in the Bible, hmmm? We say that public revelation ended with the death of John, not that the Canon was closed.2tim3:16
And the canon was closed with the death of the apostle john in 100ad.
That is incorrect. Prophetic books have what is called dual fulfillment. Which means the prophecy will be fulfilled twice both in the future.
.Not once in the past and once in the future
Manny and I are still awaiting clarification on this zinger!
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This is basic stuff that you should know already.
You are avoiding answering the question.First adam , last adam(Jesus)
1cor15:45 physical circumcision- covenant with Abraham
Spiritual circumcision- new covenant
Matt17:11-12 Elijah comes twice
These are just a few.
Like I said not every prophecy has duality but some do.
Like you said, “every prophetic book has dual fulfillment.”
Metaphors and anagogic reading of scripture is NOT dual fulfillment of some prophecy!
Newbie, you are really scratching here.
Go to 2tim3:17 That the man of God may be complete thoroughly equipped for EVERY good work.Come on, Newbie, Manny and I and others are awaiting your reply anxiously!
Where is the scriptural proof for “doctrine” in the Bible???
Nope, that’s not it.Go to 2tim3:17 That the man of God may be complete thoroughly equipped for EVERY good work.
Another basic verse that you should already know
Yes but you’re missing the glaringly obvious - it says scripture is profitable, not that scripture ALONE is enough.Go to 2tim3:17 That the man of God may be complete thoroughly equipped for EVERY good work.
Another basic verse that you should already know
The canon assertion, Newbie, the canon assertion.quote=JonathanKinsman;1823999]Where is this in the Bible? We are relying on the Word of God solely, remember?
Jonathan you need to get a little better versed in biblical truths in you want to challenge people like this. I never said every prophetic book has dual fulfillment. Come on are we going to argue like 5 year olds. You ca go back to the original post and see what I wrote. Let’s have a mature discussion here if possible. Are you trying to intimidate me or something?You are avoiding answering the question.
Like you said, “every prophetic book has dual fulfillment.”
Metaphors and anagogic reading of scripture is NOT dual fulfillment of some prophecy!
Newbie, you are really scratching here.
Here’s the quote, Newbie.That is incorrect. Prophetic books have what is called dual fulfillment.
Which means the prophecy will be fulfilled twice both in the future. Not once in the past and once in the future.
What is the clarification you need?Manny and I are still awaiting clarification on this zinger!
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I am following the dictates of 2 Timothy, which you were so kind to post.Jonathan you need to get a little better versed in biblical truths in you want to challenge people like this.
I never said every prophetic book has dual fulfillment. Come on are we going to argue like 5 year olds. You ca go back to the original post and see what I wrote. Let’s have a mature discussion here if possible. Are you trying to intimidate me or something?
This zinger.That is incorrect. Prophetic books have what is called dual fulfillment. Which means the prophecy will be fulfilled twice both in the future. Not once in the past and once in the future.
Interesting thread!
Here’s your first scandalous statement. Notice it was edited by a moderator.I am a former Catholic. I’ve said 1000’s of Hail Mary’s over the years.
It’s only now that I realize how I take away from the glory of God and Christ’s sacrifice on the cross by worshipping Mary.It has come to my attention that the Church now calls Mary coredeemer and comediator. I think this statement is blasphemous.
No, No, NoHere’s the quote, Newbie.
The last line is a real zinger. That is why Manny challenged you about the Second Coming. According to you, Jesus is coming twice in the future.
Your words.
I highlighted what you said exactly.
I know for a fact that Pope John Paul II called Mary Coredemptrix and Mediatrix. If you would like to learn more about these apparitions and the Catholic response to them check out the dvd ‘Messages From Heaven.’ It’s produced by Calvary Chapel.
Here is your second scandalous statement, taking Pope John Paul’s statement OUT OF CONTEXT without showing what he meant by those terms and then asking us to check out a dvd produced by you evangelical churchJn 3:16 Whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved
1Cor 12:10 discernment of sprits
Which, by the way, violates Forum rules.
Number 3, NewbieI would say that any person who makes a statue of a woman, be it Our Lady of Fatima, or The Queen of Heaven, or The Lady of All Nations, and bows down and venerates that statue, and says prayers to that statue, is not saved. That means they do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit and they are part of the great deception.
Sorry.
And what would your point be?Here’s your first scandalous statement. Notice it was edited by a moderator.
We don’t either, Newbie. If someone asks us something specific, most us will read our CCC and our Bible.. Remember I don’t have a scripted apologetics website to copy.
But your words remain: you did not modify your original statement. You said what you said: all prophetic books (this has to include Revelation, no?) have dual fulfillment. Then you modified that to mean DUAL in the FUTURE.
That’s the problem.