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How many SSPX’ers (for lack of a better term) are there anyway?

In the US?

In the world?

1,000,000 worldwide, maybe 2,000,000???

Does anyone have an idea or an actual source that lists such numbers?

Thanks!
 
How many SSPX’ers (for lack of a better term) are there anyway?

In the US?

In the world?

1,000,000 worldwide, maybe 2,000,000???

Does anyone have an idea or an actual source that lists such numbers?

Thanks!
I bet there are not many!
 
I guess “many” is a subjective term.

I gather about 100 people attend the SSPX Mass here in Glasgow every Sunday. Meanwhile, about two miles away, there is a licit Tridentine Mass at the exact same time, attended by 20-30 people a week. This puzzles me and troubles me. I think that part of it is that some people like to go where there are more people. They feel more supported, that way.

I’ve been told that the SSPX chapel is attended by several families with young children. As a mother of two young children, I know that I feel more comfortable when I see other children in attendance. I don’t want to have the only fussy baby in the room, ya know?

When I went to the licit Mass for the first time, yesterday, I went by myself. My husband and I have decided to throw our lot in with that parish, and we’ll be taking the kids. I’ve heard that another couple occassionally comes with children. Perhaps there will be a family in the future who will see us and think, “OK, we’re welcome here” and stay, rather than go on down the street to the SSPX.
 
I guess “many” is a subjective term.

I gather about 100 people attend the SSPX Mass here in Glasgow every Sunday. Meanwhile, about two miles away, there is a licit Tridentine Mass at the exact same time, attended by 20-30 people a week. This puzzles me and troubles me. I think that part of it is that some people like to go where there are more people. They feel more supported, that way.

I’ve been told that the SSPX chapel is attended by several families with young children. As a mother of two young children, I know that I feel more comfortable when I see other children in attendance. I don’t want to have the only fussy baby in the room, ya know?

When I went to the licit Mass for the first time, yesterday, I went by myself. My husband and I have decided to throw our lot in with that parish, and we’ll be taking the kids. I’ve heard that another couple occassionally comes with children. Perhaps there will be a family in the future who will see us and think, “OK, we’re welcome here” and stay, rather than go on down the street to the SSPX.
Just keep praying that both thrive. Sometimes the approved diocesan mass is there just to take away from the SSPX and when the SSPX is driven out, the TLM is removed from the diocese.
 
Does anyone know???

Is it 2,000,000 worldwide? Or much, much less.
 
How many SSPX’ers (for lack of a better term) are there anyway?

In the US?

In the world?

1,000,000 worldwide, maybe 2,000,000???

Does anyone have an idea or an actual source that lists such numbers?

Thanks!
Well I don’t know worldwide, I found this on the SSPX website:
USA DISTRICT STATISTICS
65 priests

2 deacons

11 brothers

63 seminarians

24 sisters

850 Third Order members

103 chapels

One of the Churches near us says they have about 600 parishoners. If we take that as an average 600 X 103 = 61,800 in the US.

I know this isn’t terribly inclusive. I’ll try to find something more definitive.

Peace
James
 
Does it matter? What’s the point?
It’s a valid question posted in the correct forum. It matters the same way diocean statistics matter.

I’d like to know as well, but after 15 minutes of google searches I couldn’t find it.

It seems I read somewhere a few months ago it was 600,000.
But I could be wrong.

All I know is they have much to offer if they were to return.
 
Does it matter? What’s the point?
The point is I’d like to know. With all the discussion on the SSPX it seems at first that they are significant group, but in reality it appears that they are so small in number as to be rather insignificant. I know it would be good if they resolved their schismatic movement, but it really doesn’t seem to affect too many people.
 
The point is I’d like to know. With all the discussion on the SSPX it seems at first that they are significant group, but in reality it appears that they are so small in number as to be rather insignificant. I know it would be good if they resolved their schismatic movement, but it really doesn’t seem to affect too many people.
I did a not too terribly effective count four our country at one time, rather laboriously and pedantically following SSPX links to each and every chapel in the US that had a website or a connection. For example, go here:

sspx.org/chapels.htm

and then from there go to each individual chapel. Some will allow you to click on them, taking you to further information which usually includes an approximate number of families attending (if you go to the LA chapel, you see there are 450 families, at whatever point the information was last updated, Ft. Myers, FL, has between 110-140 attending). A lot of the chapels do not link when you click on them, so you aren’t going to get an accurate count. Also, my understanding that in Europe, in France in particular, the numbers are highter. The number I’ve heard batted around as being world-wide is around one million, but that was in the secular press and I wondered how they got their count. I am dubious about the reputed “explosion” of the SSPX in numbers.
 
I find the question very relevant. While numbers are not the only measure of truth, one would think that after half a century passes and the SSPX, as well as sedecavantists, remain but the merest sliver of the Church, one must question if their dissent is of the Holy Spirit.
 
I find the question very relevant. While numbers are not the only measure of truth, one would think that after half a century passes and the SSPX, as well as sedecavantists, remain but the merest sliver of the Church, one must question if their dissent is of the Holy Spirit.
A member of SSPX would use that against you. The only SSPX person I know likes to quote Jesus who asked if there will be anyone of faith when he returns. My SSPX friend says that there will be but" a remant of the faithful "when Christ returns.
Of course he believes that that remnant is the SSPX.
Do all SSPX believe that? I do not know any others. But to say that the SSPX is a “merest sliver of the Church” is actually bolstering their beliefs.
 
One of the things I’ve found different between an SSPX Mass and an indult is that they don’t treat you as a second-class citizen at the SSPX. And since the priest says the Latin Mass exclusively, he is not confused by the rubrics that sometimes creep in from the Novus Ordo Mass. However, one would be splitting hairs if he were to find any differences between the forms in the Indult and the SSPX.
 
A member of SSPX would use that against you. The only SSPX person I know likes to quote Jesus who asked if there will be anyone of faith when he returns. My SSPX friend says that there will be but" a remant of the faithful "when Christ returns.
Of course he believes that that remnant is the SSPX.
Do all SSPX believe that? I do not know any others. But to say that the SSPX is a “merest sliver of the Church” is actually bolstering their beliefs.
I know, but then I would point out that the remnant agument is used by almost every cult I have known of. I think it also shows the psychology of why some are attracted to the SSPX. There is an inherent attraction to being on of an elite group.
 
I find it very odd that no one has counted the SSPX…including the SSPX. Perhaps their numbers are far lower than they would like us to believe.
 
I find it very odd that no one has counted the SSPX…including the SSPX. Perhaps their numbers are far lower than they would like us to believe.
I think it would be very difficult to count them. First, you’d have agree on who is an SSPX “member”. Some people attend their masses just because it’s the only TLM around, but they don’t agree with the SSPXs teachings. Are they to be counted with the SSPX? Other people probably follow the SSPX ideology, but don’t have an SSPX mass nearby, so they don’t regularly atttend SSPX masses. How would you find and count and classify all these people?
 
I think it would be very difficult to count them. First, you’d have agree on who is an SSPX “member”. Some people attend their masses just because it’s the only TLM around, but they don’t agree with the SSPXs teachings. Are they to be counted with the SSPX? Other people probably follow the SSPX ideology, but don’t have an SSPX mass nearby, so they don’t regularly atttend SSPX masses. How would you find and count and classify all these people?
Let’s say, everyone who attends at SSPX Masses. That might artficially inflate their numbers a bit but who cares. I’m just curious if we are talking 50,000 people worldwide…or 5 million. I also find it extraordinarily odd that nowhere in any of their writings, does the SSPX make any claim to a certain number of people. I suspect that is probably because their actual numbers are so small.
 
How many Byzantine Catholics are there? How many Chaldean Catholics are there?
 
Sometimes the approved diocesan mass is there just to take away from the SSPX and when the SSPX is driven out, the TLM is removed from the diocese.
A fascinating theory. Can you provide any documentation to support such a claim?

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Fr. T
 
I find it very odd that no one has counted the SSPX…including the SSPX. Perhaps their numbers are far lower than they would like us to believe.
Dear Brother/Sister, Sure.

Perhaps their numbers are far HIGHER, than Some, would like us to believe…
 
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