St. Boniface Church In San Francisco Lets Homeless People Sleep In Pews

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How do you know? No one knows what’s in their hearts. Maybe they’re praying, or having a conversation with God, or meditating while the Holy Spirit works in them. I applaud that church for taking them in and doing exactly what Christ said. 👍
Look at the picture that was posted on the first page. There does not look like a lot of praying to me but sleeping.
 
A person who is SLEEPING in the Church in the middle of mass is really insulting the solemn liturgy, by showing it so little respect. Perhaps they could benefit, but rather I think they would just be distracting to the people in mass.
Have you ever been homeless? I have. Let me tell you about the fear you live with day in and day out because you don’t know where you will be sleeping that night, if you will be safe, or where your next meal will come from. I can’t blame those people for sleeping, even during Mass. It must be a HUGE weight off their minds to know that they can sleep in a peaceful and safe environment. All the better that they are surrounded by the Holy Spirit and are exposed to the liturgy and Eucharist. My heart goes out to them and I pray that they one day find a stable life like I did.
 
I heard an interview with one of the people involved in this project. While it is a work of mercy to care for the homeless, I was quite unnerved by one comment the woman made.

To paraphrase, she said that it was good for the people to stay while Mass was being offered because the parishioners could see that the homeless were part of their community (certainly a good thing) and the homeless could see that they were just as important as what was happening at the altar. :eek:

That comment has bothered me for months.

The audio is here and that comment is around 25 minutes in.
 
You are taking things out of context, and you know it. Please don’t obfuscate the conversation by doing that.
I don’t see how I’m taking things out of context. Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, the Jewish day of rest, and was accused of doing work by the Jewish authorities. He rebuked them. I cannot see Jesus being angry about a homeless person being let into his house for a chance to sleep. This seems like a great way to show the love of Christ to others.
 
I don’t see how I’m taking things out of context. Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, the Jewish day of rest, and was accused of doing work by the Jewish authorities. He rebuked them. I cannot see Jesus being angry about a homeless person being let into his house for a chance to sleep. This seems like a great way to show the love of Christ to others.
Some of us are talking about reverence to The Most Holy Eucharist and not about helping people. I’m ok with helping people and showing Gods love but this doesn’t seem right with the Eucharist present in the Tabernacle
 
If they know there’s bread in the tabernacle that’s probably gonna eat it…their hungry…that would be sacrilege (sin) and canon law says non-catholics can’t receive the Eucharist except in the specified situations.
 
I don’t see how I’m taking things out of context. Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, the Jewish day of rest, and was accused of doing work by the Jewish authorities. He rebuked them. I cannot see Jesus being angry about a homeless person being let into his house for a chance to sleep. This seems like a great way to show the love of Christ to others.
This was my thought exactly. To show non-believers that we mean what we say about loving the poor will do more to convert people then pretty much anything else. The non-believers that I know complain about how Christians don’t act like Christians. We need way more of this.
 
If they know there’s bread in the tabernacle that’s probably gonna eat it…their hungry…that would be sacrilege (sin) and canon law says non-catholics can’t receive the Eucharist except in the specified situations.
Its not bread it the Body of our Lord.
 
And doing His work in His Presence is irreverent?
If they want to use the building fine just remove the Eucharist first. God is inside the tabernacle and sleeping in the church in front of him is not very respectful to Our Lord
 
I heard an interview with one of the people involved in this project. While it is a work of mercy to care for the homeless, I was quite unnerved by one comment the woman made.

To paraphrase, she said that it was good for the people to stay while Mass was being offered because the parishioners could see that the homeless were part of their community (certainly a good thing) and the homeless could see that they were just as important as what was happening at the altar. :eek:

That comment has bothered me for months.
I did not listen to the audio. However, you mentioned this was the words of someone involved with the project. This person has a misunderstanding of theology. Lots of people have a misunderstanding of theology - even sometimes people teaching at a parish. Do not let this woman’s poor theology bother you. It is unfortunate that its included in the interview.
 
If they want to use the building fine just remove the Eucharist first. God is inside the tabernacle and sleeping in the church in front of him is not very respectful to Our Lord
Why do you think the priest and bishop allow these people to sleep in the church with Our Lord present in the tabernacle and during Holy Mass?
 
What is the proper dignity to give Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament?
The proper dignity for Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament is either adoration, thanksgiving, silent prayer, or just sitting there with your eyes on the tabernacle in contemplation. So long as your intention to be there is to be in worship of God in some way, it is respectful.
What did you read that showed those who are welcomed into the parish are offering Our Lord less dignity?
I read that people were sleeping in the Church. You read it too. What did you miss?
Most people who come to worship at Mass or simply to sit in front of Jesus in the tabernacle, then go home at the end of the day to sleep in a bed.

Why would Our Lord be upset that someone who has no place to sleep might find refuge in His Home even during Mass? Sleeping is not less dignified.
Sleeping, actually, is undignified. If you were sleeping in bed, and some friends who do not visit your house often just enter your house and wake you up, do you feel perfectly dignified in your bedraggled state, or do hurry to get dressed and washed up?

Just as it would be rude to take a nap sitting in your seat at a gala dinner, so it is rude and disrespectful to sleep before the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Think of a totally sleepless night and how you longed for sleep. Imagine that night after night. For those sleeping on the street, the “sleep” of night may not be restful as they are keeping alert even as they doze. To have a place to allow themselves to fall into a deep sleep benefits their body, mind, and soul.
That’s irrelevant.
Why would Our Lord ask them to provide Him the same alertness as someone who has been given the gift of sleep each night?
Because he’s God, and deserves infinitely respectful treatment.

I am not saying everyone who enters the Church should be in a high state of alert attention. I am saying they should show more respect than to go completely to sleep.
 
Helping the poor directly is a way to show reverence to the Eucharist.
Again, bringing things out of context. Showing reverence to God in the Church and helping the poor are two different things in two different places.
 
Why do you think the priest and bishop allow these people to sleep in the church with Our Lord present in the tabernacle and during Holy Mass?
I don’t know. Ignorance for the true dignity of the sacrament is my guess, but of course I do not live there so I cannot say.
 
Corporeal works of mercy are wonderful. But this is not the way to perform them. Surely the parish has another room or building that is not where the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass takes place, a more appropriate place for people to sleep.
 
Corporeal works of mercy are wonderful. But this is not the way to perform them. Surely the parish has another room or building that is not where the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass takes place, a more appropriate place for people to sleep.
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