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1ke
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I addressed that.
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VonDerTann
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Sharpton’s behavior in that instance was beyond shameful - he basically destroyed the life and career of an innocent (white) prosecutor who was falsely accused of complicity in the nonexistent “crime” concocted by Ms. Brawley.
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1ke
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I don’t think “we” have been listening at all.
Which doesn’t mean we don’t still have huge problems.
Wow. Right there— there’s the problem.
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VonDerTann
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Because most of America is not racist.
And the part that is, is racist both ways: blacks and whites both, and Al Sharpton and his cohorts are the problem. Sharpton has been race hustling for years - ever since his false anti-white accusations in 1987 in the Brawley case. He was later successfully sued for defamation - an almost impossible suit to win - yet he hadn’t paid that judgement years later.
Al Sharpton says nothing worth listening to.
And the part that is, is racist both ways: blacks and whites both, and Al Sharpton and his cohorts are the problem. Sharpton has been race hustling for years - ever since his false anti-white accusations in 1987 in the Brawley case. He was later successfully sued for defamation - an almost impossible suit to win - yet he hadn’t paid that judgement years later.
Al Sharpton says nothing worth listening to.
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C.Ray
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I would like to suggest that the vandals aren’t interested in toppling slave owners so much as they are interested in toppling the western tradition of liberal democracy. They have also defaced monuments to Cervantes and the all-black 54th Massachusetts Infantry.
NOTHING is safe from them. They are Jacobins and if we’re lucky they’ll eat themselves before they eat us.
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1ke
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Weird, since I’m not “elite“ and am a member of a working class family. We are farmers.
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c4csp
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Prior to Vatican II, The Catholic Church spoke the truth boldly with conviction. Yet in the last 50 years we have been politically correct, walked on eggshells so we don’t ruffle any feathers, been “inclusive”, etc. and we are more hated now than before.
We do not need to give these lawless rioters the time of day. We need to speak the truth of the Catholic faith and not compromise our faith. Yes, we need to call a spade a spade. These are radical Marxists and we are blessed that some good priests and bishops are still staying true to the faith.
We do not need to give these lawless rioters the time of day. We need to speak the truth of the Catholic faith and not compromise our faith. Yes, we need to call a spade a spade. These are radical Marxists and we are blessed that some good priests and bishops are still staying true to the faith.
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VonDerTann
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I would add that America having a black president is in fact hugely indicative of how non-racist America is:
For all the posturing of, say, Europe, have you ever seen a black prime minister of the UK or a black president of France? Nope.
For all the posturing of, say, Europe, have you ever seen a black prime minister of the UK or a black president of France? Nope.
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Jen7
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I’m going to say this only because this is a Catholic forum - I don’t think God would appreciate us calling each other “the problem.” We are persons with dignity. Let’s disagree with each other’s thoughts and ideologies. But let’s not call a person a problem. People are not problems. Every time I see folks call a person “the problem” my heart breaks a little bit. We are all beloved of God. Off my soapbox now.
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1ke
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I’m not entirely sure I agree with that.
I will say that most people say they aren’t racist and truly believe it, while a lot of empirical evidence suggests that historically and currently a lot of racist things occur in this country.
When you open your eyes, your ears, and your heart— when you talk to people about their experiences— it is quite evident.
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VonDerTann
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We’ll have to agree to disagree on that.
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1ke
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I was talking about myself.
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TK421
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Disadvantaged minorities and especially blacks have been disproportionately (even when including higher crime) targeted and burdened in the criminal justice system for a long time. This is a decades-old issue and our country still has not properly addressed the issue of police reform and police reconstruction.
Eventually, that means people going into the streets from pent up frustration. Instead of misdirecting the conversation towards instances of vandalism, we should consider the main issue.
There’s overwhelming evidence that the criminal justice system is racist Social Justice
Eventually, that means people going into the streets from pent up frustration. Instead of misdirecting the conversation towards instances of vandalism, we should consider the main issue.
Peace.
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1ke
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Like the Hispanic guy whose bags were searched in our local Walmart at the exit while my husband’s were not. (This is Wisconsin, not the south).
Like every person of color having to stand in line for bag search against receipts in the Walmart in my mom’s neighborhood (which is black and Hispanic) while I am waived through with no standing in the line and no search of my bag. (Yes this happens every time I go there, in TX)
Like my employee’s black (adopted) daughter being called a “porch monkey”. That’s fun to have to explain to your 7 year old.
Like Associated Bank here in Wisconsin having to pay $200 million in a settlement for redlining in Milwaukee— in 2015.
Like the Hispanic owner of the Mexican restaurant in our town who was sent an eviction notice by his landlord for discriminatory reasons, and who was upset but resigned to the fact he had to move, until my husband helped him understand his fair housing rights and replied to the landlord, who suddenly changed his toon as soon as he realized the man had talked to someone who knew what he was doing was illegal.’
Like the racial bullying documented in the local school district that has gotten so bad parents and advocates had to storm a meeting of the local board to demand action. Incidents of students bullying Hispanics and teachers saying derogatory things to Hispanics.
The list goes on. And on. And on.
The empirical evidence is there too, for those who want to look at it.
Like the myriad studies of identical resumes sent to the same companies for job openings with only one difference— “white” and “ethnic” names on the top— which resulted in the ethnic names being rejected while the white names were called for interviews.
This is worth watching:
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c4csp
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Yes, there are racists things that happen to Blacks, Hispanics, and Whites. I’ve seen White people be served last at taco stands. I’ve seen Black woman cut a white man in line. These are all examples that deal with the individual. It is not “systemic racism”.
Do not fall into the Marxist utopian trap of thinking human nature can be social-engineered. This is what has led to mass murder throughout Communism.
Instead, if you have a problem with Walmart store, go say something to the manager. Hold a peaceful protest at the store. However, do not go out and burn down cities and tear down statues.
All we can do as christians is the small things, treat the people we interact with with the love of Christ. When we think of some large scale social-engineering is when mass murder and more oppression occurs.
I would feel more empathy for these minority communities if they actually called out themselves instead of blaming others. They have a responsibility as well and that seems to be ignored.
Do not fall into the Marxist utopian trap of thinking human nature can be social-engineered. This is what has led to mass murder throughout Communism.
Instead, if you have a problem with Walmart store, go say something to the manager. Hold a peaceful protest at the store. However, do not go out and burn down cities and tear down statues.
All we can do as christians is the small things, treat the people we interact with with the love of Christ. When we think of some large scale social-engineering is when mass murder and more oppression occurs.
I would feel more empathy for these minority communities if they actually called out themselves instead of blaming others. They have a responsibility as well and that seems to be ignored.
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CTBcin
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Best comment here.
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