St. Philomena vs. Harry Potter

[Monarchy]

Viki59:

Sorry to contradict you, Monarchy, but this is not the Catholic position.

The Catholic position has nothing to do with it. If catholics believe in something it doesn’t make it true. Also, as an atheist I don’t really care what the catholic position is.

It’s what’s believed by most present day non-Christians, I used to believe it myself – but as C.S. Lewis says, the devil’s main achievement today is convincing people that he doesn’t exist.

Or , more likely, he is a figment of the human imagination.

If you do a little research, you might find evidence to change your mind. I don’t have solid evidence to give you as I stay far away from things forbidden in the Bible. You might check out this article:newadvent.org/cathen/12315a.htm

James Randi www.randi.org offers a 1,000,000 dollar prize to ‘anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.’ The JREF does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the “applicant” becomes a “claimant.”

To date, no one has ever passed the preliminary tests.

 

[Viki59]

Monarchy:

The Catholic position has nothing to do with it. If catholics believe in something it doesn’t make it true. Also, as an atheist I don’t really care what the catholic position is.

Sorry, I was assuming you were Catholic or at least Christian.
Wonder why you’re on this board then.

But you are mistaken.

 

[Monarchy]

Viki59:

Sorry, I was assuming you were Catholic or at least Christian.

As my old science teacher said “Never assume, for when you assume you make an *** out of U and ME”

Wonder why you’re on this board then.

Do represent what atheism is and not what people on this board make it out to be.

But you are mistaken.

How am I mistaken?

 

[Shiann]

Viki59:

Sorry, I was assuming you were Catholic or at least Christian.
Wonder why you’re on this board then.

But you are mistaken.

I understand why you would wonder why Monarchy would be on a Catholic board when he is athiest. I have seen several people post the “why are you here?” reply to Monarchy and I have to say that I’m a little surprised at the lack of welcome.

Monarchy certainly comes of a little harsh when he/she says “I don’t care what the Catholic Church teaches…”, but I don’t think that is a reason to become defensive. Everyone is welcome. I haven’t seen anything that Monarchy posted that wasn’t at least partially true. But I’m sure there are people out there who would disagree with me…

Certainly there is a difference of opinion here with Harry Potter, and everyone should be allowed a say as long as they remain professional and considerate. I have had my say, and are in varying degrees of disagreement with my fellow posters. But I would never wonder why any of them are here- just because they assign themselves to another point of view.

We all know God works in mysterious ways, and maybe He is working his “magic” on our friend Monarchy. (No offense, Monarchy…)

Let’s continue this lively debate and embrace our fellow non-Catholics with prudence, justice, temprance and fortitude.

 

[deaconswife]

Arlene Alice:

I would also like to suggest that you bring your friends to this forum who have actually practiced WICCA. Certainly, that would shed some light on what Wiccans really do in their witchcraft today.

Doing a Net Search on WICCA would also enlighten any reader here of the modern day practice of the craft. However, what won’t be advertised on their sites is the satanic side of their practices. “White Magick” eventually turns into “Black Magic” as you progress in rank as witches and warlocks.

After reading this thread the other day, I had to take a day for prayer in order to understand how to respond to some of the things said here. If you are looking for someone who was a practioner of Wicca then you have found your person. For several years in my teens I practised Wicca. There are several things that have been stated as fact that are incorrect. First, the spells in the Harry Potter books are not actual spells and bear absolutely no resemblence to spells practised in Wicca. Secondly, the idea of white magick turning into black magick as you progress in rank is ludicris. In wicca there is the idea of the Rule of Three - anything you put out (good or evil) will return to you threefold - therefore almost all practioners of Wicca refrain from curses. If you wish to raise an objection that I was not sufficiently advanced, I can tell you that I was a high priestess. Also the idea that there are warlocks is false - there are witches and male witches. In case you wish to attack my credentials as a Catholic I have a B.A. in Theology, have read through the Old and New Testament several times, and also have spoken to groups on the East Coast and Midwest on the dangers of occult involvement. There are dangers out there, but if we want to alert people to those dangers we must be certain that we have all our facts straight.

 

[Monarchy]

Shiann:

I understand why you would wonder why Monarchy would be on a Catholic board when he is athiest. I have seen several people post the “why are you here?” reply to Monarchy and I have to say that I’m a little surprised at the lack of welcome.

People see me as someone who does not buy into their belief system, and they are threatened by that.

Monarchy certainly comes of a little harsh when he/she says “I don’t care what the Catholic Church teaches…”, but I don’t think that is a reason to become defensive.

I do not mean to be harsh, but it is the truth. I am sure most catholics don’t care what the teachings are of other churches are (as long as they don’t demean catholics or intefere with their rights).

Everyone is welcome. I haven’t seen anything that Monarchy posted that wasn’t at least partially true. But I’m sure there are people out there who would disagree with me…

Hey. its a discussion board, If there isn’t disagreement, there really isn’t a discussion, is there?

Certainly there is a difference of opinion here with Harry Potter, and everyone should be allowed a say as long as they remain professional and considerate. I have had my say, and are in varying degrees of disagreement with my fellow posters. But I would never wonder why any of them are here- just because they assign themselves to another point of view.

Thank you, I get the “why are you here” question a lot.

We all know God works in mysterious ways, and maybe He is working his “magic” on our friend Monarchy. (No offense, Monarchy…)

None Taken

Let’s continue this lively debate and embrace our fellow non-Catholics with prudence, justice, temprance and fortitude.

Amen!!

 

[Shiann]

Monarchy:

People see me as someone who does not buy into their belief system, and they are threatened by that.

Yup. Well, welcome anyway.

I do not mean to be harsh, but it is the truth. I am sure most catholics don’t care what the teachings are of other churches are (as long as they don’t demean catholics or intefere with their rights).

I don’t know about that. As Catholics we are called to evangelize as well as know our own Faith. The only way to really be successful at evangelization is to know those other philosophies. But in general, I think many Catholics do not evangelize like they should… heck, I’m not sure they know their own Faith like they should! So knowing that the Catholic Church asks us to spread the Word, and knowing that most Catholics leave that to “professionals” (missionaries, religious vocations, etc.), I can understand your point.

Hey. its a discussion board, If there isn’t disagreement, there really isn’t a discussion, is there?

Well, two people who are in complete agreement on something can have a discussion… no? There need not be a debate in all discussions. But there certainly is one regarding Harry Potter.

Thank you, I get the “why are you here” question a lot.

There was another athiest poster (An Athiest) on this board when it first started. They were very charitable and professional in their posts. They certainly got a little flame, but they handled it with lots of grace. I haven’t seen that person in a while, and sorta miss the additional pov, along with the centered dialogue.

None Taken

Cool.

Again, welcome. I hope to see you posting often!

 

[Viki59]

Shiann:

I understand why you would wonder why Monarchy would be on a Catholic board when he is atheist. I have seen several people post the “why are you here?” reply to Monarchy and I have to say that I’m a little surprised at the lack of welcome…

I apologize if my response seemed unwelcoming. I wondered what Monarchy was doing on the board if he’s not interested in what most of the posters think. He says “as an atheist I don’t really care what the catholic position is.” I don’t post on atheist boards because I am not interested in discussing those beliefs.

But i’m glad he’s here and hope he continues to post.

 

[Monarchy]

Viki59:

I don’t post on atheist boards because I am not interested in discussing those beliefs.

There are many theists who do.

But i’m glad he’s here and hope he continues to post.

I will.