Star Wars Video Game to Allow Characters To Have Homosexual Romances

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The T rating says it is for age 13 and up so you are saying the rating system is wrong?? A 13 year old is not an adult nor would I consider him mature.

If I see a G rating on a movie I assume it is family oriented. Does the gaming system have accurate ratings and if not why not?
The rating you are looking for is “E” for everyone. That is a game that is family oriented. The “T” rating is more like the “PG” or “PG13” movie rating. Parental Guidance is needed.

The ratings are guidelines. They aren’t there so parents don’t have to think. They are there to give us a starting point.
 
The T rating says it is for age 13 and up so you are saying the rating system is wrong?? A 13 year old is not an adult nor would I consider him mature.
I said in my post I thought the T rating was wrong and that it should be M (more so for the violence really… the “romances” are pretty “tame” and just a bunch of cheesy lines and a lot of “fading to black.” Pretty much what you see on network TV anymore–there is nothing graphic about the sex. TV daytime soap operas are more “graphic” in that respect than the game. There is graphic violence though).

But like Maryjk said the rating is only just a guide. Parents need to do their homework.
 
originally posted by JharekCarnelia
Jade Empire by Bioware is probably one of the most upfront as there are gay romance optiosn available in that game for male and female characters. But that’s one of Bioware’s lesser known games. That game is probably also rather unique in that menga-a-trois romance options are possible.
I did check the rating and it was M for 17 and older but it does sound like this company Bioware has a very strong agenda if all of its games (Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2 Star Wars, The Old Republic -- ) including a game for 13 year olds have gay romance and** Jade Empire** has menga-a-trois romances.
originally posted by mellowcalico
I said in my post I thought the T rating was wrong and that it should be M (more so for the violence really… the “romances” are pretty “tame” and just a bunch of cheesy lines and a lot of “fading to black.” Pretty much what you see on network TV anymore–there is nothing graphic about the sex.
originally posted by maryjk
The “T” rating is more like the “PG” or “PG13” movie rating. Parental Guidance is needed.
That what I would have thought about the sexual content (sounds like it is not really sexual)and that wouldn’t posed a problem as long as there were no gay romance in it,
Because of the addition of gay romance and the violence as you stated which sounds like it also could be toned down, it should be a M rated game but they have not chosen to change the rating.
 
Oh please. The game is very mild compared to most PG-13 movies. Really, if you have a problem don’t let your kids play it. In other words, be the parent.

When I was 13 I was not allowed to watch just any PG-13 movie because my mom wanted to make sure that the movie’s lined up with her values. She did not allow Hollywood to raise me. This is pretty much the same thing.

And like I said earlier, a cut to black gay romance is nothing compared to the very adult chat in the upper left hand corner.
 
I can’t get too worked up about this. The average age of MMO players is close to 30, so the developers are catering to an adult audience.

Just don’t let your kids play these games.
 
originated posted by BluedEyeLady
Oh please. The game is very mild compared to most PG-13 movies. Really, if you have a problem don’t let your kids play it. In other words, be the parent.
I haven’t seen the game but I am getting two different points of view. One person is saying it too violent and one saying it is mild. If it is a mild and doesn’t have gay relationships then it T and I am OK with this. This is a Catholic site.
originally posted by Havard
The average age of MMO players is close to 30, so the developers are catering to an adult audience.
I search for WOW game, which my son play and one 17 year old male on the internet said the average age is 16 to 22 and he rarely meets anyone pass that age.
 
Its definitely mild for most PG-13 movies and T video games. But it is still an adult game in theme, gameplay, storyline, content, etc.

You would not be exposed to the homosexual content unless you chose to initiate flirting with same sex characters.

The game meets the T guidelines. Parents should make their own decisions.
 
As for WOW, like all MMOs it was/is an adult game. I played and almost everyone I encountered was an adult. Most of my adult friends played.

My current guild is all adult, except for one teenager.

Game developers are not responsible for not offending the sensibilities of Catholic parents. Catholic parents are responsible for not allowing things that offend them.
 
As for WOW, like all MMOs it was/is an adult game. I played and almost everyone I encountered was an adult. Most of my adult friends played.

My current guild is all adult, except for one teenager.

Game developers are not responsible for not offending the sensibilities of Catholic parents. Catholic parents are responsible for not allowing things that offend them.
May I ask what realm(s) you play/played on?
 
originally posted by BlueEyedLady
You would not be exposed to the homosexual content unless you chose to initiate flirting with same sex characters.
The game meets the T guidelines. Parents should make their own decisions.
I think it is just another way of normalizing homosexual relations to the young and need not be there. If they want to put in the T game level (13) then the level should be M for 17 and older. It is agenda driven. So I guess I will have to agree to disagree with you on this. Gaming Companies are responsible to parents who buy these products and that I think is the purpose of the rating system.
originally posted** by Havard**
“the average age of the WoW player is 28.3 (SD = 8.4).”
We could do a whole new thread on average- median, means on video games and how they come with these figures.
 
I think it is just another way of normalizing homosexual relations to the young and need not be there. If they want to put in the T game level (13) then the level should be M for 17 and older. It is agenda driven. So I guess I will have to agree to disagree with you on this. Gaming Companies are responsible to parents who buy these products and that I think is the purpose of the rating system.
There is an agenda, but not the one you think.

First you need to keep in mind that the manufactures are not the ones that rate the game. It is the Entertainment Software Rating Board.

Second, the manufactures simply want the rating on their game low enough to entice as many users as possible. They want to make money, the way to do that is to sell games.🤷

Third, “E” games won’t sell to adults. “T” games have the largest audience. “M” won’t sell to kids.
 
originally posted by maryjk
There is an agenda, but not the one you think.
First you need to keep in mind that the manufactures are not the ones that rate the game. It is the Entertainment Software Rating Board.
Second, the manufactures simply want the rating on their game low enough to entice as many users as possible. They want to make money, the way to do that is to sell games.
Third, “E” games won’t sell to adults. “T” games have the largest audience. “M” won’t sell to kids.
I completely understand that and that is why they are keeping this as a T(13) rating so it will have wide appeal in the market. No problem with that but once they put in homosexual romances then the rating should jump to M(17). They want their agenda and their low T rating. I get it but it is not what parents should put up with. They should complain to BioWare.
 
Thanks for the warning. Parents with young children need to be very diligent with what their children are being exposed to through the media. If I am ever blessed to get married and have a family, I would love to have a “no video game” policy before my kids hit their teen years.
Thank God I don’t have you as a parent (and I say this as someone who’s had strained relationships with his own due to philosophical differences).
 
I completely understand that and that is why they are keeping this as a T(13) rating so it will have wide appeal in the market. No problem with that but once they put in homosexual romances then the rating should jump to M(17). They want their agenda and their low T rating. I get it but it is not what parents should put up with. They should complain to BioWare.
I’ve played Dragon Age 2 and I have to say that one thing that you should take from BioWare games like that is the decision aspect. You’re free to make decisions and take note of their consequences.

Believe it or not but that sounds very much in line with Catholic teaching and can be applied to you as a parent. It doesn’t matter what rating they choose. You still have to exercise your responsibility to make decisions as a parent. You don’t make an entire video game company make things automatic for you.
 
originally poste** by Lost Wanderer**
I’ve played Dragon Age 2 and I have to say that one thing that you should take from BioWare games like that is the decision aspect. You’re free to make decisions and take note of their consequences.
And this game is rated appropriately with a M rating.
Believe it or not but that sounds very much in line with Catholic teaching and can be applied to you as a parent. It doesn’t matter what rating they choose. You still have to exercise your responsibility to make decisions as a parent. You don’t make an entire video game company make things automatic for you.
But it does. They rate games for a reason. otherwise why even bother doing a rating system. This game is rated T(13) and it may or may not be correct. However if you ad another factor such as being able to choose homosexual romances then I think the rating should be adjusted to a more mature rating. There are billions of dollars spent on video games and parents are looking at these ratings. Why try to have it both ways.

I am not saying that parents shouldn’t look at video games content. They should but to think that a parent is going to play every video game their child plays or watch every movie that their child watches so that they can judge is foolish. That is what the rating system is for - to help parents judge.
 
Originally Posted** by MidnightSun12**
Thanks for the warning. Parents with young children need to be very diligent with what their children are being exposed to through the media. If I am ever blessed to get married and have a family, I would love to have a “no video game” policy before my kids hit their teen years.
I actually know of some homeschooling families who have a “no video game” rule and I don’t think it has hurt those children at all. They are in their late teens and early twenties(very social) and moving onto adult relationships. One family has 4 sons which really impressed me.

I,myself, saw no problem with the games as long as I saw what they played but I wonder.
 
I am not saying that parents shouldn’t look at video games content. They should but to think that a parent is going to play every video game their child plays or watch every movie that their child watches so that they can judge is foolish. That is what the rating system is for - to help parents judge.
Exactly.

The rating system clearly says that the game is totally unsuitable for preteens.

It also provides a clear description of what qualities of the game make it unsuitable for preteens. Parents may decide - not as a right, but as a responsibility - that those particular qualities make the game unsuitable for their teen.

With this game, it is probably the “blood and gore” warning that would set off alarm bells for me. But the game says it has “sexual content”. It’s right there on the box.

If you as a parent feel sexual content in a game is inappropriate for your child, don’t allow them to play it.
 
Exactly.

The rating system clearly says that the game is totally unsuitable for preteens.

It also provides a clear description of what qualities of the game
Right. It is pretty simple. I look at a rating. I read the content descriptors.
The rating for the game mentioned in the OP is “T.” So because my son can play most “T” games, I have to look further to the content descriptors. They are
Blood and Gore, Mild Language, Sexual Themes, Violence
Now, language in a game isn’t a big deal for me. Blood and gore with violence would get a second look. Sexual Themes would take me to the store to talk to someone that plays the game. Or on line to read about why it got that rating.

Based on what has been said here, I wouldn’t worry about the sexual themes.
 
I am not saying that parents shouldn’t look at video games content. They should but to think that a parent is going to play every video game their child plays or watch every movie that their child watches so that they can judge is foolish. That is what the rating system is for - to help parents judge.
Yes but there’s a fine line between helping and asking something to make judgments for you. Believe me, I’ve played a ton of T-rated games and they’ve had expressed world views that are far worse than espousing homosexuality. Then again, it’s not like homosexuality is a forbidden subject for teens either. Heck my high school Theology class did quite the coverage on the subject (with a wider coverage on human sexuality as a whole).

In the end though, that’s really up to you. As someone else stated, there’s just so much the ESRB can put on its label. However, it should be enough for you to make an educated decision.
 
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