Statement of Santa Cruz Media, Inc. Relative to Fr. Corapi’s Suspension

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Statement of Santa Cruz Media, Inc. Relative to Fr. Corapi’s Suspension

"The Church provides no financial support to Fr. Corapi. He has to pay for his own legal representation, medical costs, food, housing, etc. We have never accepted donations or charitable contributions of any kind. We are supporting Father’s efforts to defend himself. Your purchase of products from Santa Cruz Media helps provide the funding for Father’s continued work as well as the legal expenses he continues to incur as a result of these malicious allegations. "

I have the impression that money talks here. While the company might not be under the jurisdiction of any Bishop all the Catholics working for it are are under a Bishop. I think that the members of this company and especially Bobby Ruffatto are out to publicly criticize the Bishop just to ensure their stream of revenues. To me this is almost like the money changers in the temple, just keep buying more from them.:rolleyes:
 
Cristiano said:
Statement of Santa Cruz Media, Inc. Relative to Fr. Corapi’s Suspension

"The Church provides no financial support to Fr. Corapi. He has to pay for his own legal representation, medical costs, food, housing, etc. We have never accepted donations or charitable contributions of any kind. We are supporting Father’s efforts to defend himself. Your purchase of products from Santa Cruz Media helps provide the funding for Father’s continued work as well as the legal expenses he continues to incur as a result of these malicious allegations. "

I have the impression that money talks here. While the company might not be under the jurisdiction of any Bishop all the Catholics working for it are are under a Bishop. I think that the members of this company and especially Bobby Ruffatto are out to publicly criticize the Bishop just to ensure their stream of revenues. To me this is almost like the money changers in the temple, just keep buying more from them.:rolleyes:
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I’m not sure what you are saying here. The company,which is not part of the Catholic Church, is saying it has the rights to sell Fr. Corapi literature, videos etc. Unless the Church declares the literature and videos to be in error there is no reason why the company can’t continue to sell them. Why wouldn’t a business want to continue operating? Should they shut down and put people out of work because someone is being investigated for their moral actions and not their theology?
 
vsedriver said:
I’m not sure what you are saying here. The company,which is not part of the Catholic Church, is saying it has the rights to sell Fr. Corapi literature, videos etc. Unless the Church declares the literature and videos to be in error there is no reason why the company can’t continue to sell them. Why wouldn’t a business want to continue operating? Should they shut down and put people out of work because someone is being investigated for their moral actions and not their theology?
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I think that they should stay in business and keep selling Fr. Corapi material. I would do that if I were them.

What I think as immoral is the public attack against the Bishop and what sounds like gossiping about the individual that accused Fr. Corapi. I also think that the statement is counterproductive because it can bring division within the Church and how do you expect to sell something related to the Church when you bring division to it.

A house divided will not stand! That applies to the sale of Catholic items too. Businesses like this must rely on being seeing as witnesses to the Church. I think that they made a very poor business decision because they are loosing the more high ground just to make a sale.
 
As was stated in another thread. The comments from Santa Cruz Media re: the bishop were the opinions of Canon Law lawyers. Based on what I have read on the matter I tend to agree with them.
 
Cristiano said:
I think that they should stay in business and keep selling Fr. Corapi material. I would do that if I were them.

What I think as immoral is the public attack against the Bishop and what sounds like gossiping about the individual that accused Fr. Corapi. I also think that the statement is counterproductive because it can bring division within the Church and how do you expect to sell something related to the Church when you bring division to it.

A house divided will not stand! That applies to the sale of Catholic items too. Businesses like this must rely on being seeing as witnesses to the Church. I think that they made a very poor business decision because they are loosing the more high ground just to make a sale.
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None of us know the truth about what happened. But if this business is Father Corapi’s only source of income other than public speaking, then I understand how they would want to keep some sort of revenue coming in.

I also understand the churches tenuous situation today, and remember much of this situation is directly related to the Bishops failing to act in a timely manner, so now they are in effect being extremely careful when any allegation is brought up to them.

It could also be that the employees of Santa Cruz Media did witness this and feel obliged to speak out on Father Corapi’s behalf, seeing that he has been suspended by the church authorities.

Go with Gods Grace!!!
 
KevinAK said:
As was stated in another thread. The comments from Santa Cruz Media re: the bishop were the opinions of Canon Law lawyers. Based on what I have read on the matter I tend to agree with them.
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The bishop has done nothing. Fr Corapi was placed on leave by his religious superior. The superior then informed the bishop of his act.

While this act, the suspension, of Fr Corapi might have been done according to, or not, the Code of Canon Law there is also the constitutions/statutes of his religious community which may have some bearing on this that canon lawyers would not know about.
 
steve711 said:
None of us know the truth about what happened. But if this business is Father Corapi’s only source of income other than public speaking, then I understand how they would want to keep some sort of revenue coming in.

I also understand the churches tenuous situation today, and remember much of this situation is directly related to the Bishops failing to act in a timely manner, so now they are in effect being extremely careful when any allegation is brought up to them.

It could also be that the employees of Santa Cruz Media did witness this and feel obliged to speak out on Father Corapi’s behalf, seeing that he has been suspended by the church authorities.

Go with Gods Grace!!!
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I thought that Fr. Corapi took the wows of poverty.
 
What about mystic monk coffee? Where does that money go to I always wondered lol…
 
ByzCath said:
The bishop has done nothing. Fr Corapi was placed on leave by his religious superior. The superior then informed the bishop of his act.

While this act, the suspension, of Fr Corapi might have been done according to, or not, the Code of Canon Law there is also the constitutions/statutes of his religious community which may have some bearing on this that canon lawyers would not know about.
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I am wondering who his religious superior would be? Would he be a Bishop? Somehow that is the logical conclusion people are coming to. Thus, the reason for the confusion.
 
Cristiano said:
While the company might not be under the jurisdiction of any Bishop … … To me this is almost like the money changers in the temple, just keep buying more from them.:rolleyes:
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There is no temple involved and as you noted, they are not even a diocesan organization. This is no different that CA selling books here or This Rock charging for subscriptions.

If there was any comparison in the Bible, you might could use Simon Magus, but I think the differences out weigh the similarities.
 
ByzCath said:
Fr Corapi is a secular priest, he took no vows, he made promises of obedience to his superior and celibacy.
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I don’t mean to be so publicly un-knowledgeable, but could you please explain secular priest for me? Does that mean he is priest without a parish “home”? Thank-you!:confused:
 
The bottom line that we are living in a rotten country.

The accusers have no responsibility at all.

We do not know who is accusing him, we do not know what is exactly the accusation,

but we know that his natural allies, the diocese where he is incardinated and the order where he belongs abandoned him due to fear that they will be responsible.

In the seventies frustrated children started to accuse their parents based on repressed memories of sexual abuse. When the accusation reached the mowners of the media, they suddenly stopped, bur revived (started with the Bernardin cases) in the nineties, and in the use topped in 2002, in Europe in 2010.

The common characteristics are irrational: beyond the statue of limitation and thus the proper investigation, and making the dioceses and thus the catholic community responsible for mostly unproven, he says-he says allegations.

It is the terror of the Accuser, which is now through this case extending his power.

In the medieval eves the Satan was also called accuser, and now we see that appropriately.

The other bottom line is that God loves father Corapy. Either he is responsible for something or not, he is suffering, and this may help his journey toward God. Let us pray for him, and because we are Christian let us pray for his accuser(s) too.
 
laszlo said:
The bottom line that we are living in a rotten country.
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You think so? Then by all means, don’t feel obligated to stay. :rolleyes:

Of any country in the world Father has the best chance of getting this straight and getting his life and his priesthood back HERE. This country has its issues, but being “rotten” is not one of them.

~Liza
 
Time will tell regarding Fr. Corapi and his accuser. We all have our own personal “opinions” while having no real facts in the case. We are called to pray for both Fr. Corapi and the accuser. Meanwhile, Fr. Corapi’s teachings are without fault, in keeping with Catholic dogma and Traditions and I have no problem continuing to order his books and cd’s which are teachings of the church without error. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
 
Teelynn said:
I am wondering who his religious superior would be? Would he be a Bishop? Somehow that is the logical conclusion people are coming to. Thus, the reason for the confusion.
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Fr Corapi is a member of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity. His superior is within that community. It is Fr Gerald Sheehan (SOLT), Regional Priest Servant. See his statement here; Statement from Fr. Corapi’s superior.

This is not a logical conclusion that people are coming to, it is an assumption because most laity do not know how religious communities work. They assume everything is under the bishops, this is a wrong assumption.

If one would read everything in these threads they would see this but it seems that many chose to skim threads and end up skipping key points.
KimberlyAnn0218 said:
I don’t mean to be so publicly un-knowledgeable, but could you please explain secular priest for me? Does that mean he is priest without a parish “home”? Thank-you!:confused:
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There are two types of priests in the Catholic Church. Secular priests and regular priests. Secular priests take no vows, they make promises, Regular priests are religious priests who are consecrated and under vows.

All diocesen priests under the bishop are secular priests. Priests like Jesuits, Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites, Benedictines (and so on) are regular priests.

Priests who are members of Societies of Apostolic Life are secular priests as they are not consecrated, they do not take vows. They are like a diocesen priest but are under their communities superior rather than being under a bishop.

The superior of a religious community acts as the ordinary for the priests under him rather than the bishop being the ordinary. Though a priest from a religious community still needs to be granted faculties from the local bishop to publicly celebrate the sacraments within the bishop’s territory.

I hope this has helped.
 
ByzCath said:
Fr Corapi is a member of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity. His superior is within that community. It is Fr Gerald Sheehan (SOLT), Regional Priest Servant. See his statement here; Statement from Fr. Corapi’s superior.

This is not a logical conclusion that people are coming to, it is an assumption because most laity do not know how religious communities work. They assume everything is under the bishops, this is a wrong assumption.

If one would read everything in these threads they would see this but it seems that many chose to skim threads and end up skipping key points.

There are two types of priests in the Catholic Church. Secular priests and regular priests. Secular priests take no vows, they make promises, Regular priests are religious priests who are consecrated and under vows.

All diocesen priests under the bishop are secular priests. Priests like Jesuits, Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites, Benedictines (and so on) are regular priests.

Priests who are members of Societies of Apostolic Life are secular priests as they are not consecrated, they do not take vows. They are like a diocesen priest but are under their communities superior rather than being under a bishop.

The superior of a religious community acts as the ordinary for the priests under him rather than the bishop being the ordinary. Though a priest from a religious community still needs to be granted faculties from the local bishop to publicly celebrate the sacraments within the bishop’s territory.

I hope this has helped.
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This definitely has helped me. Thank you for taking the time to explain it clearly. 🙂
 
There are two types of priests in the Catholic Church. Secular priests and regular priests. Secular priests take no vows, they make promises, Regular priests are religious priests who are consecrated and under vows.

All diocesen priests under the bishop are secular priests. Priests like Jesuits, Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites, Benedictines (and so on) are regular priests.

Priests who are members of Societies of Apostolic Life are secular priests as they are not consecrated, they do not take vows. They are like a diocesen priest but are under their communities superior rather than being under a bishop.

The superior of a religious community acts as the ordinary for the priests under him rather than the bishop being the ordinary. Though a priest from a religious community still needs to be granted faculties from the local bishop to publicly celebrate the sacraments within the bishop’s territory.

I hope this has helped.

:blush:Oh my…I am afraid it hasn’t. So the priest at my parish becuase he is not Jesuit, Franciscan, Dominican, Carmelite, Benedictine (and so on), is a secular priest? And when people refer to priests taking “a vow” of celibacy, they may not be entirely accurate?

Please forgive me obvious ignorance. I am not a cradle Catholic and have much to learn. I guess I am thrown by the “secular” word. Throw that in front of something and it changes the meaning… would you be ameanable to me sending you a couple clarifying questions to your member inbox to get this out of this forum?

Thank-you!
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