Stephen Hawking Has Died

[Raxus]

Were you under the impression that the King was a timid little pushover?

Jesus will return with a rod of iron and decimate all his enemies… He came as a meek Lamb… He will return as Conquering King and Judge.

Remember, Jesus is the God of the Old Testament in the flesh. The wrath and vengeance of God is embodied in Jesus perfectly.

Easy there, killer. This is the same Jesus that wouldn’t let the ear of one of the guards falsely arresting him be cut off.

 

[Raxus]

It does make me feel good.

Then you need to go to Confession.

I feel great knowing God will dispense perfect Justice in the Day.

Be careful. Only God knows that you may or may not have coming on that Day.

I tremble simultaneously however - it will be Truly Awful and Dreadful.

I prefer to trust in His mercy, for myself and for all concerned.

 

[Spyridon]

Are you Catholic? Your tone suggests that you’re not.

Are you my judge? The fact you’re speaking to me online suggests you’re not.

There’s nothing un-Catholic about the Bible.

Romans 14:11 "for it is written “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bend before me,
and every tongue shall give praise to God.”

Revelation 19:15-16 "Out of his mouth came a sharp sword to strike the nations. He will rule them with an iron rod, and he himself will tread out in the wine press the wine of the fury and wrath of God the almighty. He has a name written on his cloak and on his thigh, “King of kings and Lord of lords.”

 

[Raxus]

Are you my judge? The fact you’re speaking to me online suggests you’re not.

Who said I was? I asked a question.

Romans 14:11 "for it is written “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bend before me,

and every tongue shall give praise to God.”

Yes indeed. The Bible can be made to support many positions if you take pieces of it out of context.

Revelation 19:15-16 "Out of his mouth came a sharp sword to strike the nations. He will rule them with an iron rod, and he himself will tread out in the wine press the wine of the fury and wrath of God the almighty. He has a name written on his cloak and on his thigh, “King of kings and Lord of lords.”

See above.

 

[Spyridon]

Then you need to go to Confession.

Being happy about the Justice of God is not a mortal sin.

I pray for God to Judge Justly.

 

[MonteRCMS]

Maybe he will be treated to a real Physics Course by Our Lord.

And then sent back to parade around with a sign board saying “THE END IS NEAR”.

 

[Raxus]

Being happy about the Justice of God is not a mortal sin.

You don’t know the first thing about the Justice of God, sir / madame. None of us do.

I pray for God to break the teeth of the wicked, and I look forward to the day when the righteous dip their feet in the blood of the wicked.

Then you’ve missed the entire point of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection.

 

[Spyridon]

Oh well, I guess the Holy Spirit was mistaken in Psalm 58.

Psalm 58:7,11

God, smash the teeth in their mouths;
break the fangs of these lions, Lord!

Then the just shall rejoice to see the vengeance
and bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.

 

[Spyridon]

You don’t know the first thing about the Justice of God, sir / madame. None of us do.

I know the wicked and unbelieving will be tormented in eternal hellfire.

 

[Raxus]

Oh well, I guess the Holy Spirit was mistaken in Psalm 58.

Psalm 58:7,11

God, smash the teeth in their mouths;

break the fangs of these lions, Lord!

Then the just shall rejoice to see the vengeance

and bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.

You can stop quoting Bible verses at me until you can demonstrate that you know the context in which they were written.

I know the wicked and unbelieving will be tormented in eternal hellfire.

Maybe so. That’s not something to rejoice over. You also don’t know that Steven Hawking was “wicked”. You’re not a mind-reader. You don’t know what he suffered. You don’t know what that may have done to his thinking. Only God does.

 

[Raxus]

I never said Stephen Hawking was wicked

Bullplop. You called him a “vehement adversary of the faith.” Pretty sure that implies wickedness.

I clearly indicated he may be saved by the mercy of God.

You called his chance of salvation “pretty narrow”; to which I replied that you had no way of knowing that.

The man was an enemy of faith. Not sure why that’s so hard to accept.

In a strict sense, perhaps. He’s also a child of God.

And I know the context of Psalm 58 full well, it’s one of my favorite imprecatory Psalms. It’s a prayer pleading God for his Justice in public.

Do you indeed pronounce justice, O gods;[c]

do you judge fairly you children of Adam?

3 No, you freely engage in crime;

your hands dispense violence to the earth.

II

4 The wicked have been corrupt since birth;

liars from the womb, they have gone astray.

5 [d]Their venom is like the venom of a snake,

like that of a serpent stopping its ears,

6 So as not to hear the voice of the charmer

or the enchanter with cunning spells.

III

7 O God, smash the teeth in their mouths;

break the fangs of these lions, Lord!

8 Make them vanish like water flowing away;

trodden down, let them wither like grass.

9 Let them dissolve like a snail that oozes away,[e]

like an untimely birth that never sees the sun.

10 Suddenly, like brambles or thistles,

have the whirlwind snatch them away.

11 Then the just shall rejoice to see the vengeance

and bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.

12 Then people will say:

“Truly there is a reward for the just;

there is a God who is judge on earth!”

Uh-huh. And what about the context of Jesus, and his teachings? Conveniently ignoring those? No turning the other cheek?

 

[Spyridon]

Jesus said nothing about not praying for God’s Justice.

Jesus is not some hippie from the 60’s.

Jesus is the Dread Judge and Pantokrator.

 

[Spyridon]

called him a “vehement adversary of the faith.” Pretty sure that implies wickedness.

Well, a spade IS a spade.

Jesus had no issue with imprecations: “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

 

[angel12]

2.5 billion people isn’t a slump.

I seriously doubt that Stephen Hawking is single-handedly responsible for that number.

 

[Raxus]

Jesus said nothing about not praying for God’s Justice.

He said plenty about forgiving one’s enemies.

Jesus is not some hippie from the 60’s.

Never said he was.

Jesus is the Dread Judge and Pantokrator.

Aaaaaand this convo is going off the rails.

RIP, Steven Hawking. I hope you made it home.

 

[niceatheist]

Jesus said nothing about not praying for God’s Justice.

Jesus is not some hippie from the 60’s.

Jesus is the Dread Judge and Pantokrator.

I know one thing Jesus said, and it’s in Matthew 7:1-3.

You seem to spend a great deal of energy judging Stephen Hawking. Perhaps you should direct some of that energy at your own behavior.

 

[MonteRCMS]

Why is that?

Far more merciful than other possible fates …

http://biblehub.com/mark/8-36.htm

 

[Spyridon]

I never said he was.

I said he’s a posterboy for scientism - which he was. And now that he’s passed, he’ll quickly be canonized and his words will be viewed as infallible by many thousands of people. The fact he flat out proclaimed on multiple occasions “there is no god” is going to help harden many in atheism and scientism.

Didn’t the Scriptures say something about the one who says there is no god?

 

[Spyridon]

RIP, Steven Hawking. I hope you made it home.

Amen.

Lord Jesus be merciful unto the soul of Stephen Hawking and forgive me for being harsh or rash in my judgments.

 

[Spyridon]

You seem to spend a great deal of energy judging Stephen Hawking. Perhaps you should direct some of that energy at your own behavior.

God is Judge and God has judged him.