Stopped believing in God

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I’m sure there are but what I’m saying is a place or torment should not exist at
 
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Ah see but hell is described as literal fire and brimstone
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It is much, much worse than literal fire and brimstone. That description is used because it’s the most awful way to die.
 
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Why not?
Should Hitler be in heaven?
Should people who refuse God’s love be rewarded?
 
Didn’t say they should be rewarded but not one deserves unending torture no matter how bad.
 
This is the best point I have seen so far but shouldn’t a merciful god force his love soon us if he knows we are going to be part of this.

Can u be taken out of hell If u beg for forgiveness in hell

What if I die and I have been a bad person but I don’t want to be apart from god will I be sent to hell against my own will?
 
I find it kind of difficult to believe that you can read other people’s minds, that’s kind of magical thinking. I know your age has a lot to do with it, but you’re really aggressive towards the God that supposedly doesn’t exist, and toward the people that believe in said God. When you come here telling people that, and people are trying to help you, and you treat them instead like refuse, it makes you seem less like you want an answer, and more like a troll. I’ve struggled with this very thing, and do you know what? I came to the conclusion that God has to exist, and not even the Christian God, even though that’s the only God there is, so obviously the one I believe. I’m twice your age, do you think I haven’t been thinking about this Longer than you have? Do you think this isn’t something I’ve studied? Do tell me, do tell me, how something can randomly generate itself, because well from what I know about physics and biology, my mother having a biology degree, that’s not really possible, it is possible for some species to reproduce by themselves, but it still had to start somewhere. Now if you’ll excuse me, because I have to bathe. You talk about suffering, but how much of it have you actually lived? Have you ever been to an Indian Reservation? You want to talk about suffering go there, go up to Pine Ridge. you want to talk about suffering? Go to an abortion clinic where babies are torn limb by limb. This is going to sound terrible, but it’s a very good thing that hell exists, because it makes sure that people are held to a moral standard. You claiming not to believe God, doesn’t make him non-existent. I’m also skeptical that at your age, that you can make a decision like that.
 
Lucysweeny said:
Didn’t say they should be rewarded but not one deserves unending torture no matter how bad.
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We receive temporal punishment for the magnitude of sins in this life, but the grade of eternal punishment varies by the degree of our final disposition. Hell is not just punishment for the sins of this life, but for the continued and perpetual rebellion against the ultimate good, which varies by person.

Purgatory, the cleansing of sins after death, is in Macabbees II, and the Church has prayed for the dead since the beginning. Purgatory was part of the Church well before the middle ages. And neither are we sola scripture.
 
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Adam: It’s not unusual to challenge your faith when you are a teenager. It may even be healthy. Many later recover their beliefs.

I think of all those fire and brimstone stories as metaphors to an eternity with the absence of God. It is not as much that hell is so bad, but that heaven is so great - that living without it is unbearable.
 
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Lucysweeny said:
This is the best point I have seen so far but shouldn’t a merciful god force his love soon us if he knows we are going to be part of this.

Can u be taken out of hell If u beg for forgiveness in hell

What if I die and I have been a bad person but I don’t want to be apart from god will I be sent to hell against my own will?
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Those in hell perpetually refuse to beg forgiveness. It’s no longer in their nature to change the disposition of their will.

It’s not the magnitude of a person’s sins that sends him to hell, but his final disposition and impenitence for those sins. Those who are in hell are those too attached to the wrong things to give them up.
 
Lucysweeny said:
Can u be taken out of hell If u beg for forgiveness in hell

What if I die and I have been a bad person but I don’t want to be apart from god will I be sent to hell against my own will?
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If the Devil begged for forgiveness, he would be forgiven.

People in hell don’t beg for forgiveness.
 
I understand ur point of having a god because there’s no way anything could come into existence but 1000 years ago we where the centre of the universe I honestly believe it’s more realistic that there’s another’s anwser that are simple minds can’t comprehend within are own sensory and 3D perception of the universe.
 
Lucysweeny said:
Are you joking anyone in there right mind would rather cease to exist than be in eternal suffering
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Actually the Catholic Church teaches us otherwise. The Angels fell first. They are much greater intellectual creatures than man and not given to passions. Yet out of pride they would refuse to obey and choose eternal suffering.

I’ve lived long enough to meet people who are so full of pride they would choose Hell.
 
When I asked critical questions of what I grew up with I lost my faith. Eventually I started asking myself more critical questions I hadn’t considered in depth before, some of which I took for granted. That brought me back.

Not everyone’s journey is the same. Neither are the answers they come to. But just know the questions you’re asking yourself (not just in this topic) are not unique. Neither are they the end of wisdom. I’m not saying “I’ll see you when you’re older,” because I like said you might come to different conclusions. Just… be aware… there’s more, and it’s not as if us here haven’t thought critically either.
 
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Lucysweeny said:
Purgatory:I liked the idea of purgatory repenting and severing our time for ur sins so u can enter heaven not a bad idea.It sounds like the best solution,but that Catholic Church created this idea middle century to get money off people
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This is simply not the case whatsoever. Try telling that to these guys: Church Fathers on Purgatory Unless you consider 200 AD the “middle ages” you’re simply factually incorrect.

It’s worth mentioning that some serious theologians argue that it’s theoretically possible that nobody is in hell. It’s been argued in several different ways. Some of which have been condemned others not.
 
The Church is 2000 years old. With thousands of verified miracles and saints to back it up.
It has outlived empires and has successfully refuted arguments against it for as long as history can tell.

You’re a 16 year old who thinks sex is cool and doesn’t want to be told what to do.

I know who I’m going to trust.

And hey man, I mean no offense by that. We’ve all been there one way or another. After a while it’s time to grow up and realize that the commandments are here out of love to help us.
You will only find true happiness if you give yourself up to Him and trust in Him. Difference is day and night, I can tell you first hand.

Trust me you are not more wise than a 2 millennium old institution. None of us are.
 
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