Story of Noah: Who believes it to be real?

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

Hope you’re not posting for my benefit, Peary. I got my information from the same type of source you did – secondary. I just can’t remember which one. Sorry.

So now you call yourself Catholic, but reject the authenticity of the Bible, Tradition and the Catholic Catechism? Where do you get your faith from, Alfred?

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

Well, regardless, I just cannot understand why genuflecting seems to be a ‘bad’ word for you. Are you against the practice or what? And if so, why?

Peary,
He is intent on infiltrating threads to try to discredit the Bible, Tradition and the Catholic Catechism while maintaining that he is a better Catholic and deeper in his Catholic faith because of His disbelief and disobedience.

 

[tnystrom]

Who’s to say that Noah and/or his wife did not carry the genetics of the Nephilim? That would answer the question above. I wrote about this in a former post on this thread. DNA traits do tend to skip generations. And they could have become the dominant trait in following generations.

You are correct about the genetics, but Noah’s geneology is given and the Nephilim are not in it (Genesis 5). Be careful how much non Scripture you bring into your reasoning as a literalist.

 

[KingAlfred]

Well, regardless, I just cannot understand why genuflecting seems to be a ‘bad’ word for you. Are you against the practice or what? And if so, why?

Not at all. I just like tweeking the sensibilities of believers who automatically assume everything we do, say and believe as Catholics is directly related to Jesus, when in fact a lot of it isn’t. Religion is something too many religious people don’t study, or know anything about, technically speaking.

 

[peary]

Not at all. I just like tweeking the sensibilities of believers who automatically assume everything we do, say and believe as Catholics is directly related to Jesus, when in fact a lot of it isn’t. Religion is something too many religious people don’t study, or know anything about, technically speaking.

Au contraire, EVERYTHING we do, say and believe as Catholic Christians is directly related to Jesus. PERIOD.

 

[roanoker]

I believe it, because Jesus and Peter believed it, and preached about it. How could you not believe it?.. Roanoker

 

[Brian_Millar]

Au contraire, EVERYTHING we do, say and believe as Catholic Christians is directly related to Jesus. PERIOD.

Au contraire, EVERYTHING we do, say and believe as Catholic Christians should directly be related to Jesus. PERIOD.

Just had to throw in a little word play on this.

 

[Brian_Millar]

I believe it, because Jesus and Peter believed it, and preached about it. How could you not believe it?.. Roanoker

I would not word it that way, it makes Christ look like a mere prophet or apostle, Christ should not be taken into comparison or within the context of the least and/or greatest of man, he is God in the flesh…

 

[Neil_Anthony]

I believe it, because Jesus and Peter believed it, and preached about it. How could you not believe it?.. Roanoker

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus believed it was a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s there for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

 

[buffalo]

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus believed it was a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s there for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

Jesus wouldn’t know?

 

[Neil_Anthony]

Jesus wouldn’t know?

That’s a red herring.

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus believed Noah’s Ark was a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s in the bible for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

 

[buffalo]

That’s a red herring.

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus believed Noah’s Ark was a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s in the bible for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

Hello - I was referring to whether Jesus believed or not? My point is He is Divine and would know.

 

[Neil_Anthony]

Hello - I was referring to whether Jesus believed or not? My point is He is Divine and would know.

That’s a red herring.

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus understood Noah’s Ark as a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s in the bible for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

 

[peary]

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus believed it was a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s there for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

But we DO know that Jesus mentions it in the book of Matthew:

**36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.
37 "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 "For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
39 "and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
40 "Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
41 "Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 "Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.
43 "But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.
44 "Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. **

 

[Brian_Millar]

Jesus seems to be recalling the story of Noah like a literal event to me. I think I’ll maintain my side with him and his teachings over the skeptics.

 

[buffalo]

That’s a red herring.

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus understood Noah’s Ark as a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s in the bible for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

I will try again - Are you saying Jesus needed the Scriptures to know about Noah’s Ark?

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

I believe it, because Jesus and Peter believed it, and preached about it. How could you not believe it?.. Roanoker

Thank you. That point could stand on its own without any thing else. You ask a good question.

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

We don’t know if Peter or Jesus believed it was a literal historical account. We know that they used it to teach religious truths, which is what it’s there for. It’s what we all agree it is meant for.

Why must you deny that if Jesus and Peter spoke of it as a real event, it was a real event? Why is it such a horrible thing to you, that you have to deny it? Why can you not accept these things? Is it because that to admit it, you would have to humble yourself by claiming that you have a finite mind, while God has an Infinite Mind?

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

You are correct about the genetics, but Noah’s geneology is given and the Nephilim are not in it (Genesis 5). Be careful how much non Scripture you bring into your reasoning as a literalist.

Sorry.

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

You are correct about the genetics, but Noah’s geneology is given and the Nephilim are not in it (Genesis 5). Be careful how much non Scripture you bring into your reasoning as a literalist.

Sorry. But what about Noah’s wife? Not arguing, just asking.