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jilly4ski
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The study specifically says married people who are childless. Priests and nuns are not considered married.
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Trader
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I totally agree that selfish people make terrible parents, but no one has to remain selfish. You can grow out of it. It also explains why unmarried teens make really bad parents. They have not yet grown out of the selfishness we are all born with.hmmmm…
let’s see
– Option A) Being a good parent means you have to be selfless and put your child first, being responsible for others for 20+ years.
– Option B) No kids means that husband and wife continue to indulge in selfish/greedy behavior, and be responsible for only themselves.
So OK, I can totally understand why selfish couples are happier without children. These are also the people who idolize fancy parties & social life and worship money.
Perhaps society is better of if they don’t have kids…
If a woman says she has all she ever wanted but is still unhappy, she will be spending a lot of time in therapy. Ditto for men, but we would not admit it.
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Maria65
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Yes, fortunately, sometimes people do! I worked with a young woman who was very immature and self-absorbed and was planning her wedding at the time I left that job because I was moving to another state. She was turning into a total bridezilla. A couple years later, I was back in town visiting my parents, and my son and I ran into her in Target. She asked me how my parents were doing and then told me she and her husband had recently had a baby boy. I cannot describe the way her face lit up when she talked about her baby - she glowed! When she left, I turned to my son and said, “Wow, motherhood has really transformed her! I am so happy to see that!”
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Thorns
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The person I have quoted made a generalization about childless people, inferring that in 50 years they wont be happy.
PS- Priests and nuns are married to the Church
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Tantum_ergo
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“Happier”? Guess it depends on what they think of as being ‘happy’. . .
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jediliz
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Priests and Nuns are NOT MARRIED (with the exception of Eastern Rite Catholic Priests).
I am speaking of those who choose childless or childfree-ness so they can go to Europe and have a lavish lifestyle with expensive cars. But their hearts will be empty.
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ProdigalSun
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hmmmm…
let’s see
– Option A) Being a good parent means you have to be selfless and put your child first, being responsible for others for 20+ years.
– Option B) No kids means that husband and wife continue to indulge in selfish/greedy behavior, and be responsible for only themselves.
So OK, I can totally understand why selfish couples are happier without children. These are also the people who idolize fancy parties & social life and worship money.
Perhaps society is better of if they don’t have kids…
Thank you for saying this. I was thinking the same thing!
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Bruised_Reed
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Why will they be empty?
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Bruised_Reed
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No kids can be the result of infertility or choice and neither one necessarily means that the couple is selfish.hmmmm…
let’s see
– Option A) Being a good parent means you have to be selfless and put your child first, being responsible for others for 20+ years.
– Option B) No kids means that husband and wife continue to indulge in selfish/greedy behavior, and be responsible for only themselves.
So OK, I can totally understand why selfish couples are happier without children. These are also the people who idolize fancy parties & social life and worship money.
Perhaps society is better of if they don’t have kids…
There are a lot of people who have children and remain selfish. They don’t have money either. But I think if you say they shouldn’t have kids you come very close to saying okay to abortion. And birth control.
There are people who have children (even adopt) who go to fancy parties, have money and may or may not be selfish. It’s hard to tell.
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buffalo
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Homosexual acts are the most contraceptive in nature.
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Thorns
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Will a person who is called to live a single, celibate life also have an empty heart and be miserable in 50 years?
Couples who have children and even many children can be seen as having empty hearts and be full of selfishness too, if they see their children as objects or as a means to keep their partner or for any other reason that is not placing a child’s best interest first.
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Sarcelle
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You can outgrow selfishness but parenthood does not automatically cure selfishness. Parenthood will present the opportunity to grow out of selfishness but if people may fail to use that opportunity to grow more selfless than they won’t outgrow their selfishness.
What I object to is that people who are childless are automatically judged as selfish. I’ve known my fair share of selfish parents.
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Jeanne_S
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The religious/clergys,by choice of their vocation are childless,this is not an accurate analogy.
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Thorns
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Sometimes married couples or single people, by choice, choose not to have children for whatever reason (and not necessarily due to selfishness).
The poster I quoted made a generalized statement that people who are without children will have no one to care for them in 50 years and inferred that life would not be happy for them then. That would apply to anyone who is childless, whether by choice or not, since it was a generalization of no kids = no happiness. Not true.
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anp1215
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Do you really think those are the only two options?hmmmm…
let’s see
– Option A) Being a good parent means you have to be selfless and put your child first, being responsible for others for 20+ years.
– Option B) No kids means that husband and wife continue to indulge in selfish/greedy behavior, and be responsible for only themselves.
So OK, I can totally understand why selfish couples are happier without children. These are also the people who idolize fancy parties & social life and worship money.
Perhaps society is better of if they don’t have kids…
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Sarcelle
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Try telling this to infertile couples who are childless against their will. I have a friend who with her husband were trying to have a child. She ends up in tears because people say she is selfish because she is childless. Yes, they have tried adopting but it did not work out. The two options above are misleading. Not all childless couples are selfish.hmmmm…
let’s see
– Option A) Being a good parent means you have to be selfless and put your child first, being responsible for others for 20+ years.
– Option B) No kids means that husband and wife continue to indulge in selfish/greedy behavior, and be responsible for only themselves.
So OK, I can totally understand why selfish couples are happier without children. These are also the people who idolize fancy parties & social life and worship money.
Perhaps society is better of if they don’t have kids…
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InSearchofGrace
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I’d say it’s also a case for non-reproductive homosexual sex.
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Thorns
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As opposed to reproductive homosexual sex?
Homosexuals want the right to adopt children. This study is telling them that they’d be happier without them, which I am sure they do not agree with since it contradicts what they’re fighting for.
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KyrieEleison17
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Well naturally of course they do want children. However the people who manipulate the gay community don’t actually want them having biological children, as it proves astonishingly powerful at curing SSA.
The USA government has the distinct pleasure right now of persecuting one of its own daughter citizens for refusing to allow her ex-“wife” to sexually molest her child. She is currently hiding in South America somewhere with her (natural/biological) daughter to prevent her from being sexually abused by her ex-“wife” who a Judge granted access to… some nonsense about parental rights (even though they aren’t related and she was molesting the child).
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KyrieEleison17
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No such thing.
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