Sturgis motorcycle rally linked to more than 250,000 coronavirus cases, study finds

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I’m being serious. People engaged in illegal activities, intentionally hiding their faces, get the added benefit of whatever protection a mask provides from COVID.

My gut also tells me there is no desire whatsoever to run a similar study on left-leaning gatherings. Actually, its more than just a gut feel. What are your thoughts about this:

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NYC's contact tracers have been told not to ask people if they've attended a protest

The policy marks a balanced approach between public health and respecting public outrage about police violence against Black Americans.
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KMC said:
I’m being serious. People engaged in illegal activities, intentionally hiding their faces, get the added benefit of whatever protection a mask provides from COVID.
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But that’s not at all what I was referring to. You pivoted to a political bashing of the left.

Do you not think it’s interesting to explore the reasons why different gatherings seem to be super-spreaders and others aren’t?
 
PaulinVA said:
Do you not think it’s interesting to explore the reasons why different gatherings seem to be super-spreaders and others aren’t?
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I first want to know if there is objective criteria for determining a super-spreader event vs a non-super-spreader event. Doesn’t the article about NYC concern you? Based on that, its impossible to determine if BLM protests were super-spreader events because the NYC government prohibited data collection.
 
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I first want to know if there is objective criteria for determining a super-spreader event vs a non-super-spreader event. Doesn’t the article about NYC concern you? Based on that, its impossible to determine if BLM protests were super-spreader events because the NYC government prohibited data collection.
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I can see a legitimate public health concern to not ask people if they were doing something that some might consider illegal or could cause repercussions from the police. the contact tracers want honesty about where the patient has been.

Frankly, I don’t care. I’m sick and tired of the politics. Yes, I’d like to know if the protests spread the coronavirus. I’d like to know if rallies can be traced to outbreaks.
 
Jeanne_S said:
The facts are stubborn,aren’t they?
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Jeanne, in all Christian charity, let me tell you that I’m putting you on ignore for the next few months. I pray that you stay healthy.

Do the same to me if you wish.
 
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In all,Christian charity,why do you feel the need to publicize this action? 🤨
 
PaulinVA said:
Frankly, I don’t care. I’m sick and tired of the politics. Yes, I’d like to know if the protests spread the coronavirus. I’d like to know if rallies can be traced to outbreaks.
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Not trying to be sarcastic or anything, no this is not a cheap shot. But hearing you say this, which I believe is authentic, is the exact same feeling Trump supporter feel. Everything is so politicized that it is impossible to know facts.

I agree with you about this, by the way.
 
Rockoh22 said:
I truly find this weird. Look I do not doubt this article, but I do wonder about this…

This is a very intelligent Virus. It affects Trump rallies, churches, and right wing protests. But BLM/Antifa it avoids.
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And motorcycle rallies!! A very selective virus!
 
7_Sorrows said:
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Rockoh22:
I truly find this weird. Look I do not doubt this article, but I do wonder about this…

This is a very intelligent Virus. It affects Trump rallies, churches, and right wing protests. But BLM/Antifa it avoids.
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And motorcycle rallies!! A very selective virus!
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The general scientific consensus is that crowds in a static state for more than 15 minutes provides enough viral transaction for infection. A moving crowd has less opportunity for the virus to make a successful transaction. Viruses have always been a fascinating study for scientists for their sophistication.
 
Yes, I have to admit I have become interested in epidemiology since this pandemic began. It has been a new type of terrorist for sure. @Motherwit
 
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ThinkingSapien:
Might be harder to contact trace on a protest. One might not be willing to acknowledge participation.
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One might be able to make that same claim about a Sturgis rally…
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That would imply there may be even more coronavirus cases from the Sturgis rally than the ones they traced. Are you sure you want to go there?
 
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That would imply there may be even more coronavirus cases from the Sturgis rally than the ones they traced. Are you sure you want to go there?
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I have no idea nor opinion on the viral impact.

I just wouldn’t to admit going to Sturgis for Hog Wild 2020, with or without the pandemic.
 
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LeafByNiggle:
That would imply there may be even more coronavirus cases from the Sturgis rally than the ones they traced. Are you sure you want to go there?
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I have no idea nor opinion on the viral impact.

I just wouldn’t to admit going to Sturgis for Hog Wild 2020, with or without the pandemic.
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That really is not being disputed here. This thread is about viral impact.
 

A Fed up Gov. Kristi Noem Goes off as Reports of Superspreader Outbreak From Sturgis Rally Go Down in Flames​

Posted at 7:30 pm on September 9, 2020 by Sister Toldjah

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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces on Monday, June 22, 2020, that city and county governments will be able to access federal coronavirus relief funds as she speaks at city hall in Sioux Falls, S.D. (AP Photo/Stephen Groves)

As my colleague Brad Slager reported two weeks ago, MSM reporters were champing at the bit over the possibility they might get to declare the annual Sturgis rally in South Dakota a coronavirus “superspreader” event because mask-shaming and guilting people for allegedly being irresponsible during the pandemic has become the MSM’s gig (with left-wing protests, riots, and haircuts for high-profile Democrats being the exceptions to the rule, of course).

At the time of Brad’s report, 103 cases had been confirmed, which is a tiny percentage of the 366,000 people who were said to be in attendance.

Fast forward to now, and the mainstream media are eagerly reporting on a study they believe confirms their suspicions and which alleges the rally may have caused a widespread outbreak. Here are some of the headlines:

— NBC News : Sturgis rally may have caused more than 250,000 new coronavirus cases, study finds
— The Hill : Sturgis Motorcycle Rally was ‘superspreading event’ that cost public health $12.2 billion: analysis
— WaPo : ‘Worst case scenarios’ at Sturgis rally could link event to 266,000 coronavirus cases, study says . . .
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1/2 (Very link-heavy article and I wanted to leave the links in place in case anyone wanted to follow those from my post. Therefore two posts.)
 
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The big problem with the “study” the MSM is falling all over themselves to share on their websites and social media is that it’s garbage, according to some investigative digging done by Reason.com:
According to South Dakota health officials, 124 new cases in the state—including one fatal case—were directly linked to the rally. Overall, COVID-19 cases linked to the Sturgis rally were reported in 11 states as of September 2, to a tune of at least 260 new cases, according to The Washington Post.

To get to the astronomical number of cases allegedly spread because of the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, the researchers analyzed “anonymized cellphone data to track the smartphone pings from non-residents and movement of those before and after the event,” notes Newsweek. “The study then linked those who attended and traveled back to their home states, and compared changes in coronavirus trends after the rally’s conclusion.”

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The paper, which has not been peer-reviewed, failed to account for simultaneous happenings—like schools in South Dakota reopening, among other things—that could have contributed to coronavirus spread in some of the studied areas.

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The results of the IZA paper “do not align with what we know,” South Dakota epidemiologist Joshua Clayton said at a Tuesday news briefing. . . . .
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A Fed up Gov. Kristi Noem Goes off as Reports of Superspreader Outbreak From Sturgis Rally Go Down in Flames

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