Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter = 180 PriestsI got news for you, the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter is growing. And so is Christ the King Institute! And they are orthodox! We are seeing a renewal in the priesthood.
Because girls cant be alter boys, go to boys schools or boys homes.If there is no link, why are the vast majority of victims boys? Why were these pedophiles more attracted to little boys than little girls? If it was mere coincidence, then there should have been about as many girls abused as boys, but that’s not the case. Boys were specifically targeted by these adult men That’s a homosexual attraction.
What a bunch of propaganda. We are getting new orthodox priests every year. In fact, Bishop Burke ordained three new ones. You don’t think we’re having a renewal? Hmmmmmm…if I recall correctly John Paul II stated that we are entering a new springtime in the Church.Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter = 180 Priests
Christ the King Institute = 50 Priests
Current U.S. priesthood = 41,500 Priests
I don’t doubt for a second that these orders are orthodox, not do I doubt that they are growing. That said, they are a drop in the ocean. A renewal? I think that is a bit of an overstatement.
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Thats fantastic, but you are still evading my question.I think you’re ignoring the obvious. These sites point out the direct connection between homosexuality and pedophilia
“Africa, AIDS, homosexuality, pedophilia” at renewamerica.us/columns/abbott/050702
“Child Molestation and Homosexuality” by Cameron familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html
“Gay culture in Catholic Church grows,” worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26940
“Study shows link between homosexuality and pedophilia,” theinterim.com/2002/sept/02study.html
People who refuse to see the connection between pedophilia and homosexuality are sympathetic to abortion rights.
Those links provided the evidence and you’re looking for an excuse and goading me. Plain and simple.Thats fantastic, but you are still evading my question.
Remember, we are going by your assertion that paedophillia and homosexuallity are linked.
No, those links dont provide evidence about why the gay community is to blame. All it shows is that these people believe that there is a link between paedophillia and homosexuality.Those links provided the evidence and you’re looking for an excuse and goading me. Plain and simple.
No your refusal to see the whole truth makes you blind. But your profile proves to me that you are not interested in the truth of the situation.No, those links dont provide evidence about why the gay community is to blame. All it shows is that these people believe that there is a link between paedophillia and homosexuality.
I dont understand exactly what you mean by looking for an excuse, an excuse for what?
Gay or not, those priests took a vow that they chose to break on their own. They also chose to break the law, again on their own. The representitives of the church who chose to cover this up rather than doing the right thing, did so on their own.
Now unless you are claiming that the gay community and the church are one in the same (which I hope that you are not) or that the gay community has some sort of hold over the church, how exactly is what the church did the fault of the gay community?
This is not goading, I simply dont see how a community can be responsible for an individuals voluntary actions.
???No your refusal to see the whole truth makes you blind. But your profile proves to me that you are not interested in the truth of the situation.
A confessor is not obligated to give absolution. He could make their penance the act of turning themselves in. A good confessor would demand justice, especially for children.I think I am missing something here. But as a catholic I have the safety of the the confessional right. and when I go into that confessional I confess my sins to the priest. He gives me absolution. If I have given a good confession and am truly sorry for my sins. We have kind of what I call a catch 22 a confessor is not privy to release what he knows if it was in the confessional. Weither he is a priest a cardnial or the pope himself. How many priests have kept that? How many have died keeping the confessional pure? What if they went to a confessor that didn’t know them?
You’ve got to be kidding.Because girls cant be alter boys, go to boys schools or boys homes.
Honestly, this is really off topic.You’ve got to be kidding.
Girls can be altar servers and in many cases outnumber male altar servers (unfortunately.) So, female altar servers were just as vulnerable as male altar servers and they probably do outnumber male altar servers or at least match their numbers. To say these priests didn’t have as much access to altar girls as altar boys is absurd, no offense.
Your point about boys school iisn’t a good point either: 1. Priests are present both in boy and girl Catholic schools; why were the boys schools targeted and not the girl schools then? 2. Not all Catholic schools are for just one sex 3. Most of the abuse did not happen in schools, and if it did that’s news to me because I never heard that before.
The same goes for boys homes. There are also girls homes and these priests had just as much access to them. BUT they specifically chose to go after the boys.
You seem to want to deny the link between pedophilia and homosexuality to such an extent that you ignore the obvious reality. These priests had as much access to girls that they did to boys. The vast majority of abuse was between adult men and boys. That’s NOT a coincidence! Again, if it was, common sense would say that roughly the same number of girls would have been abused, but that wasn’t the case. Boys were specifically targeted! You can try to spin this all you want, but the data speak for themselves.
Also, as I said before, there seems to be a good portion of active homosexual men who seem attracted to young boys. One obvious proof of this is the existence of NAMBLA.
I still want to hear where on earth this “gay community” is?
Perhaps gated and tucked away?
Bath houses?
Discos?
Beach enclaves?
The internet?
Admit it is a militant and virulent strain in the sub culture or stop using a cant term to beat the RCC with.
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Hey, Im not the one who brought the phrase into the discussion. Although I seemed to have swapped the words “culture” and “community” along the way.I still want to hear where on earth this “gay community” is?
Perhaps gated and tucked away?
Bath houses?
Discos?
Beach enclaves?
The internet?
Admit it is a militant and virulent strain in the sub culture or stop using a cant term to beat the RCC with.
Im not using any “cant term” to beat anything with. Although I am attacking child molesters and the people who chose to hide the crimes.
If that seems like an attack on the RCC, well I suppose that it is because the perpetraitors are/were representitives of the RCC. It wouldnt matter to me what organisation/group was involved, sexual abuse (of either a child or adult) and covering up sexual abuse is reprehencable. Although it is especally wrong because of the psoition that the church holds in the community and the positions of authority that the perpetraitors hold as well.
Just in case people were wondering, no, I am not gay.
This comment is an endless source of amusement for me on these threads. If you aren’t Catholic (or in my case quit Cathlicism) you are automatically unqualified to say anything about the RCC. Folks here can’t handle thoughts that challenge their “truth”.But your profile proves to me that you are not interested in the truth of the situation.
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I was not wondering anything of the sort. The violation a small minority of priests inflicted on innocents is vile beyond words. Nobody here seriously doubts where the responsibility lies. My point is that, if the cant term you keep using has any use at all, it is that anybody a product of pro-gay anything would be an even worse candidate than the monsters who slipped into the ministry likes wolves in sheeps clothing.Hey, Im not the one who brought the phrase into the discussion. Although I seemed to have swapped the words “culture” and “community” along the way.
Im not using any “cant term” to beat anything with. Although I am attacking child molesters and the people who chose to hide the crimes.
If that seems like an attack on the RCC, well I suppose that it is because the perpetraitors are/were representitives of the RCC. It wouldnt matter to me what organisation/group was involved, sexual abuse (of either a child or adult) and covering up sexual abuse is reprehencable. Although it is especally wrong because of the psoition that the church holds in the community and the positions of authority that the perpetraitors hold as well.
Just in case people were wondering, no, I am not gay.