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captainrick
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Hey! A tutu doesn’t cover the arms, and we have the Constitutional right to bare arms!I hate pink tutus.
I think they should be outlawed.
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styrgwillidar
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How many times do we not here about a successful use of a gun in self-defense because no one got shot, the aggressor simply turned tail and ran? Those don’t make the news…
But as for a motorcycle helmet, yes they are the same. The are both precautions taken against low probability but severe consequence events. I have +100K miles riding motorcycles and have never crashed. I know severel folk like me. The helmet (like boots, and jacket with protective inserts) is insurance against a low probablity but severe consequence event. I sincererly hope it never comes into play. It’s like life insurance, auto insurance, fire extinguishers, smoke detectors, the portable rope escape ladder I have in my two story house. They’re all things I don’t want to have to ever use for their intended purpose-- but they are relatively cheap precautions should the worst occur. When it will be far too late to wish I had them in place.
Folks protesting carrying law guns aren’t trying to intimidate anyone- they’re trying to normalize the behavior and assure their neighbors that folks who carry firearms are just like them-- they don’t want their rights taken away based on the behavior of criminals.
If my jurisdiction ever permits CCWs, if I choose to carry it won’t be to intimidate anyone. The attitude to CCW is the first and primary goal is to avoid conflict, you never lose the fight you avoid. In the vast marority of jurisdictions–displaying a weapon prior to being in fear if imminent fear of serious bodily harm is a crime and can range from misdemeanor to felony.
(BTW- both CNN and Washington post have looked into the claim of 70 school shootings-- they include shootings that happened in the neighborhoods, suicides in the parking lots, after hours shootings by gang members on the school grounds late at night-- i.e. those 70 are not all folks coming onto school grounds during school hours to shoot at kids.)
There is a mental illness issue, we do need to address it without infringing on the rights of others. We don’t ban cars because other folks get into DUIs, we punish the DUI offenders, we try and get the alcholics and identified and into treatment.
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chero23
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I went ot Dallas ISD, the police did have guns there. I went to a big High School, they even had Dalas PS. The resources are there.
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Brendan
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Did they guns they had intimidate you?
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Jon_S_1
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Only high schools at this point, perhaps select primary schools.
Most elementary schools don’t have armed security (or any security). Where I live in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA it is a fight to even get a fence around the school!!
Parents see security as a stigma of “a bad school”
So the bad psycho kids go to the vulnerable unprotected schools to do their damage.
We need to wake up and protect our kids.
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chero23
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Have you actually used your gun? Besides hunting? You know guns were used to defend your house, not to use your gun in the streets.It is intimidating to you but not to those used to seeing them.
So because you get frightened at the sight of a rifle on the street, everyone else should lose their right to carry a gun?
That’s just my opinion. I think you can have a gun at home, not a gun fan, but athome I’m ok. When you go around carrying a gun I think it can cause problems.
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chero23
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Tutus?I hate pink tutus.
I think they should be outlawed.
Is this in regards to me.
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chero23
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So my opinion doesn’t count. So I guess yours is the only the ones is the one that counts.
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chero23
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Not me, but I know that those carrying have a job to do and I trust that they do it.
See one brings facts that at schools they do have armed police, and now you make it into a personal bashing.
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chero23
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I know from Middle School up here in Dallas have police presence. Both Dallas and DISD police.
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Jon_S_1
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Why shouldn’t elementary schools then?
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Brendan
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My house??
Why should I defend bricks and lumber?
What I care about personally is defending myself and my family. That does not stop when we leave our front door.
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Brendan
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I have a job to do,
As Pope Saint John Paul II noted in Evangelicum Vitae ( The Gosple of Life)
I have a family, and thus an obligation to defend them, which is why I have to tools at hand that would be need to. +JPII did not state that such an obligation stops when I leave the door.
Why would it?
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chero23
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Oh I agree they should have, every school should.
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chero23
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Have you read of intruders, robbers? My friend was killed b/c he went to steal at this house. That’s what i meant
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chero23
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Like I said at home that’s fine, I also believe at schoools. Every school should have armed guards.
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chero23
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I do too, I work as well. I have a family. You and I have our similarities your not more than me nor am I more than you. You make it sound like your situation is better than mine.
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Path_Finder
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And if you are threatened at home, that’s fine but what if you aren’t home?
Okay, we don’t know all of the circumstances here but this just happened the other day:
7-Elevens getting robbed, Dallas and Albuquerque, some cities it seems you have shootings every night but we see this elderly man may have acted in self-defense. If he doesn’t have a weapon, he’s prey to whomever may come around to cause trouble. Like I said, I work, I can understand if people conceal and carry if they ride the bus, use public transportation, have to walk home alone at night or in many other circumstances.
If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns. Sad about the victim of the story though.
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styrgwillidar
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Ah, California, where they don’t just rely on legal precedent that the police have no duty to protect an individual, they’ve gone a step further and put it in the government code that there is no obligation to provide police service at all:
CA Government Code 845:
845. Neither a public entity nor a public employee is liable for
failure to establish a police department or otherwise to provide
police protection service or, if police protection service is
provided, for failure to provide sufficient police protection
service.
- Neither a public entity nor a public employee is liable for
injury caused by the failure to make an arrest or by the failure to
retain an arrested person in custody.
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Brendan
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And my point was I do not seek to defend material goods. What I seek to defend is human life, particularly those to whom I have a responsibility to defend.
And that responsibility is not contingent on me being at home.
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