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a_priori
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My fault. I think we’re both on the same page. I’m irritable probably for the same reasons you are. Misinformation and lies abound.
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chero23
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Are you kidding me???One can find two people who will say almost anything in either party, but that does not mean it is either representative of that party as a whole or that the establishment leadership of the party will actually do anything.
The leadership of the GOP is pro-abortion but they use the pro-lifers to get votes meanwhile they do absolutely nothing to change anything at the national level. Only a few states have done anything.
Republicans have always been pro life anti-abortion. IDK what you are talking about.
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RGCheek
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The rank and file are largely pro-life, but there are many GOP who don’t really care one way or the other, and some who think being pro-life costs the GOP votes, like the pro-choice Scott Brown who lost in NH.Are you kidding me???
Republicans have always been pro life anti-abortion. IDK what you are talking about.
The party leadership is far more like Scott Brown than Brownback or Santorum.
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styrgwillidar
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Well, the problem is it really is a legal term not a technical term. So an ‘assault weapon’ is whatever the law says it is in a particular jurisdiction. California’s law runs a few pages and is very specific and includes several shotguns by model, as well as a generic, “Any semi-automatic shotgun which has a detachable magazine”. The legal definition is different in Connecticut, New York, and California. So what’s an assualt weapon is really an issue of where you happen to be standing.Me too and I don’t like the phrase ‘assault weapon’ being misused to refer to single shot nonmilitary rifles that look military.
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Lost_Sheep
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Maybe YOU are intimidated, but you can’t speak for everyone.A gun in the street whether you are holding in or not is intimadating.
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Lost_Sheep
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I’d go a step farther and say that gun training should begin when a prospective teacher is a freshman in college and would have to qualify their marksmanship skills on a gun range before they can graduate. And just like teachers must take continuing education classes to maintain their certifications, so must they periodically re-qualify their shooting skills.No one is proposing that teachers be required to carry. It would be limited to those who volunteer, and are properly trained, background checked, and licensed.
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chero23
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Hear people like Tim Staples talk and he says that one should vote Republican due to their position on abortion.The rank and file are largely pro-life, but there are many GOP who don’t really care one way or the other, and some who think being pro-life costs the GOP votes, like the pro-choice Scott Brown who lost in NH.
The party leadership is far more like Scott Brown than Brownback or Santorum.
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chero23
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Same goes for you, you don’t speak for everyone.Maybe YOU are intimidated, but you can’t speak for everyone.
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Lost_Sheep
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That’s fine if the only thing you have to worry about is being attacked in your house.Have you actually used your gun? Besides hunting? You know guns were used to defend your house, not to use your gun in the streets.
That’s just my opinion. I think you can have a gun at home, not a gun fan, but athome I’m ok. When you go around carrying a gun I think it can cause problems.
What you “think” is just your opinion. No basis of fact.
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chero23
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I do have facts, you just don’t want to see them because I don’t think like you.That’s fine if the only thing you have to worry about is being attacked in your house.
What you “think” is just your opinion. No basis of fact.
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Lost_Sheep
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Prison guards do not carry around guns because there is the potential for the bad guys to get ahold of them. They use non-lethal defenses such as mace, pepper spray, or tasers.I worked for a private ambulance company, we would go to the Dallas County Jail. Well when the officers walked into the jail, they could not take their guns. I asked one of them why not. They said, bc if we get attacked they dont have a weapon. to use. Even at the jail here they don’t want to use guns. Its just something to think about it.
That is pretty common practice in all prisons.
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Lost_Sheep
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You are mistaken.The people who did the marches here in the DFW area were carrying automatic rifles, and if im not mistaken AK47s. This is the local Fox affiliate.
myfoxdfw.com/story/26049700/open-carry-members-hold-victory-rally-in-arlington
An AK-47 is an automatic rifle and is (sadly) illegal to carry. The rifles in the two pictures in that article look like AR-15s; perfectly legal semi-automatic rifles.
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Lost_Sheep
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Who says they are not to be carried around in public? You?Well those guns that you saw on that link which is true, you cannot argue that it was made up, are not to be carried around in public. What these individuals above all was to intimadate, but they used the 2nd ammendment as a cover.
If you are intimidated it is your own fault. And the 2nd Amendment isn’t a cover; it’s a right.
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Lost_Sheep
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Wrong (again).But what I am saying is that abortion has been made legal due to pro lifers arguing the Constitution. It is the law of the land. I’m saying, the 2nd Amendment was put in due to the threat of the British that’s why guns were allowed. Not to be parading around with a gun.
The 2nd Amendment was put in place to protect the citizenry from a tyrannical government.
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chero23
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I was not the only who thinks like this, other people in the area had complaints about this as well as the country. So you are saying our opinion doesn’t count, just yours.Who says they are not to be carried around in public? You?
If you are intimidated it is your own fault. And the 2nd Amendment isn’t a cover; it’s a right.
Remember the Constitution has also been used to allow gay marriages, abortion, so I would be careful about how you word things, because you only see the Constution to your own benefit.
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Lost_Sheep
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Is that a fact or just your opinion?The rank and file are largely pro-life, but there are many GOP who don’t really care one way or the other, and some who think being pro-life costs the GOP votes, like the pro-choice Scott Brown who lost in NH.
The party leadership is far more like Scott Brown than Brownback or Santorum.
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chero23
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Which was that of England. What year was that btw, wasn’t it in 1776?Wrong (again).
The 2nd Amendment was put in place to protect the citizenry from a tyrannical government.
That was why that Ammenendment was put in, bc the Independent Fathers wanted the people to protect themselves from an attack. That’s a fact not made up, but you won’t agree with it bc were not on the same page. Besides what tyrannical government are you worried about? Mexico? Canada? Guinea? France?
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Lost_Sheep
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I didn’t purport to speak for anyone other than myself. My point was that you implied that everybody is intimidated by guns because you are intimidated by guns. You can’t speak for everyone.Same goes for you, you don’t speak for everyone.
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Lost_Sheep
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Let’s see them.I do have facts
Show us some legitimate studies and statistics by an unbiased source. (Blogs and news organizations don’t count).
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chero23
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I never said that, I did say people were upset that this group did this. Some people probably were probably intimadated. If at least one person who was around was intimadated, we should take it seriously.I didn’t purport to speak for anyone other than myself. My point was that you implied that everybody is intimidated by guns because you are intimidated by guns. You can’t speak for everyone.
I think people should own guns I have never been against it.
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