Support for gun control down dramatically since 2012

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With all due respect, he did not say your opinion does not count. Your opinion, however, is not the same as objective fact.
How do you know that? Did you ask people here in the DFW area who were around these gun protests. Did you ask them if they were a little bit worried or even scared about it?

Plus, the US constitution has been used to support atheism, abortion, gay marriages, and even, even slavery. Those are facts.
 
To some extent, I agree. But I would say that our Constitution is fine, it’s the politically appointed courts that bring us the poor results (abortion decisions, etc.).

On another point, I would not say the colonists were afraid of “outsiders,” particularly the British. The colonists were also British - It was their own government that was oppressive and posed a danger.

Gun ownership is protected not just for hunting, target shooting, and protection from criminals, but for for defending against an oppressive and threatening government. Not today, but who knows what the U.S. will be like 100 years from now, The Constitution was meant to apply to any future problems that might arise.

I see that you were a History major - since we are including credentials: B.A. in Political Science, M.P.A., Juris Doctor. 😃
But it has been done with both right leaning and left leaning courts. That is why I’m saying, the Constitution can have a lot of ramifications and cause a lot of problems.

You say that the 2nd amendment was mainly for threats from the government. But most of the people have it for defense against another individual not so much the police, or FBI, or CIA, or the politicians. You know, it is a big difference, from why the 2nd amendment was put in then?
 
So your (sic) knit (sic) picking basically. Your (sic) saying that you agree whatever fits you best.
No nit picking at all. No one is saying you have to agree. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying you have to agree or else.
Even if the government told me what to do about my faith, I would put God above the government. Men did this and were killed and we call them martyr. Not that I would be one, but my loyalty is with God first, not the government.
So if (theoretically) the government said “You MUST agree with the idea of gay marriages and MUST agree with the idea of abortion or we will kill you if you don’t” you’d be OK with that?
 
No nit picking at all. No one is saying you have to agree. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying you have to agree or else.

So if (theoretically) the government said “You MUST agree with the idea of gay marriages and MUST agree with the idea of abortion or we will kill you if you don’t” you’d be OK with that?
Isn’t that what our church teaches us? To stand up to what is true? Isn’t why we are praying for the Christians in the Middle East who are being beheaded because they don’t convert to Islam. Isn’t that we give veneration to the martyr’s who were thrown to the lions because they worshipped Jesus?

If this government tells me we will kill you if you don’t agree to it, let them kill me. I will stand firm to the teachings that Jesus gave to us through his Church. Governments, kingdoms come and go, Jesus is forever and I rather have him and be loyal to him.
 
If this government tells me we will kill you if you don’t agree to it, let them kill me. I will stand firm to the teachings that Jesus gave to us through his Church. Governments, kingdoms come and go, Jesus is forever and I rather have him and be loyal to him.
And I will be right there with you. 👍
 
I applaud your resoluteness, but if they come for me, I wont go quietly and I wont go alone.
Oh trust me I have never, and I do mean never. Have I gone down without a fight.

But that I change my position to save my life and go against God, I won’t do that.
 
But it has been done with both right leaning and left leaning courts. That is why I’m saying, the Constitution can have a lot of ramifications and cause a lot of problems.

You say that the 2nd amendment was mainly for threats from the government. But most of the people have it for defense against another individual not so much the police, or FBI, or CIA, or the politicians. You know, it is a big difference, from why the 2nd amendment was put in then?
No, I didn’t say “mainly.” In colonial days guns were used for all purposes - hunting, attack by animals, robbers, or marauders, as well as defense against an oppressive government.
 
How do you know that? Did you ask people here in the DFW area who were around these gun protests. Did you ask them if they were a little bit worried or even scared about it?

Plus, the US constitution has been used to support atheism, abortion, gay marriages, and even, even slavery. Those are facts.
Slavery, was not specifically mentioned in the Constitution until the ratification of the 13th amendment abolished it. It’s unlikely that the Constitution could have been ratified if it had. It is implied in several places, especially in the 3/5 compromise, which was intended to be a limitation on slave states (the slave states wanted to count slaves as a whole person for purposes of Congressional representation, thereby increasing their numbers in the House of Representatives). This makes it more like atheism, abortion, gay marriage, rights that are created by the Supreme Court without regard for the text, or even the intent, of the Constitution. In contrast, the right to bear arms is specifically recognized by the 2nd amendment to the Constitution and it’s importance and rationale are discussed in several places by the authors of the Constitution. Mentioning the other rights in the context of the 2nd amendment is a non-sequitur.
 
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