As we can see in the Ellison situation, a man are more likely to be defended by the progressives if he is a progressive, irrespective of evidence.I have to wonder how many of the women calling for Kavanaugh’s head have husbands and or brothers,sons,grandsons?Would they want their loved one to be assulted in the manner the ,left has done to Judge Kavanaugh.
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Dr_Meinheimer
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That sort of thing is an ambush anyway. Why is she telling Lindsey Graham? It is a provocative maneuver.
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gracepoole
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I don’t think he should be held accountable for what other males might do. But that’s not what I was claiming anyway. I simply responded to this:gracepoole:
But not by Kavanaugh, and to treat him as if he responsible for what other males might do is guilt by association, just the opposite of presumption of innocence.
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Theo520
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I think you have no experience with CPS.
You responded with a broad, general claim about sexual assault. The other poster’s point is rather clear: if Claims with no corroborating evidence can derail the “job interview “, it certainly can others, and the target will usually be men.JonNC:
I don’t think he should be held accountable for what other males might do. But that’s not what I was claiming anyway. I simply responded to this:gracepoole:
But not by Kavanaugh, and to treat him as if he responsible for what other males might do is guilt by association, just the opposite of presumption of innocence.
For young men, however, there is at least a partial solution: stay out of situations like those described by Ford where you can end up being accused some day.
Oh, and practice abstinence until you’re married
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gracepoole
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I responded to a generalization about false accusations regarding men with generalized comments about legitimate assaults.
And for heaven’s sake, I’d hope we’d all see that teaching young men not to participate in raucous drunken parties while underage is a good thing.
And for heaven’s sake, I’d hope we’d all see that teaching young men not to participate in raucous drunken parties while underage is a good thing.
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Keith Ellison was the rep in our district, and I can tell you that here in Minnesota there has not been that much defense of him by the left.
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What we haven’t taught young people since the 60’s is abstinence. That’s the even bigger issue. Sex outside wedlock is wrong. Find s school that teaches that!
How does one know when free love is free or not?
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Keith Ellison was the rep in our district, and I can tell you that here in Minnesota there has not been that much defense of him by the left.
That said, Ellison deserves due process and the presumption of innocence, even in his election (which is really just a job interview with the voters).
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starshiptrooper
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That is not a partial solution, it is victim-blaming. Marriage is no defense against bogus sexual assault claims anyway.
A real solution is to be aware of the dangers that feminists pose, consider skilled trades (despite all the feminist whining about the lack of female CEO’s they never whine about the lack of female plumbers), and close ranks to support our brothers who are wrongfully accused.
A real solution is to be aware of the dangers that feminists pose, consider skilled trades (despite all the feminist whining about the lack of female CEO’s they never whine about the lack of female plumbers), and close ranks to support our brothers who are wrongfully accused.
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I’m not one to blame victims, be it those assaulted or those falsely accused. If you don’t need it yourself in avrisky situation, you have a better chance of not being accused.
Don’t be alone with a female. Don’t participate in premarital sex. Reject the progressive promiscuity message that’s been out there for decades.
Im perfectly willing to close ranks around men who act morally and ethically.
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starshiptrooper
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To be more precise, the real danger is not feminists, only the white knights who support and enable them. Like all other evils, the only strength feminism has is that which is leaches from good.
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starshiptrooper
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So I take it you also agree that avoiding risky situations gives you a much better chance of not being assaulted right? You will also state that publicly, right?
Until proven otherwise with something more authoritative than the mere words of a woman, they are all innocent.
Of course I will. Don’t go to a bar and leave your drink unattended. Be careful who you date. Your best bet is often someone whose family regularly attends church.
Dating someone new? Maybe make it a double date. My brother told his three daughters never get into a car with a boy alone.
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Absolutely. Even “credible” accusations are not a conviction.
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Fine by me.
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If you’re in a skilled trade in the service industry, which I am, here’s a thought to consider. When I knock on a door I’d say 80% of the time a woman answers. She’ll be home, alone, in the middle of the day and I walk in to spend a couple hours or more. If this new social phenomenon of accusation and condemnation without corroboration is allowed to proliferate and become the new normal, I’m seriously considering having a legal waiver drafted that I’ll have my customers sign on my departure. That way I can’t be blindsided 20 years later with an allegation I have no way to disprove. Either that or start wearing a body camera.
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From Desiree Zapata Miller at the Charlotte Observer:
“The rage we see today in leftist women toward men is frightening. As a wife and mother of three sons, I am compelled to defend our boys and men and to call out what I am confident is an intentional movement to shame and vilify men.”
Read more here:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/article219359280.html#storylink=cpy
“The rage we see today in leftist women toward men is frightening. As a wife and mother of three sons, I am compelled to defend our boys and men and to call out what I am confident is an intentional movement to shame and vilify men.”
Read more here:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/article219359280.html#storylink=cpy
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dvdjs
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Nonsense. Both gave testimony. One has a story with gaps that one might have expected from analogous cases. The other went into an angry mode of total denial; the denials have been directly contradicted by contemporaries. The determination of credibility is not arbitrary, it is evidence based.
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dvdjs
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Not at all. Why would you suggest such a thing?
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Regular_Atheist
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The mere words of a woman. Not nearly as authoritative as the POWERFUL words of a man!
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