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JonNC:
A background check is not a criminal investigation. The accusations are of a criminal nature and charges should be filed and investigated in the local jurisdiction
A criminal charge can become “probable cause” for an FBI investigation as part of a background check.
And there is no criminal charge. No charge has been filed.
 
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Metis1:
An investigation is not a trial.
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Yes, I realize it’s not a trial but even in an investigation the burden lies with the accuser to prove guilt. More of a general principle in our American society, not solely restricted to the courtroom.

But, by it just being an investigation, the accusers can make any allegation they want without fear of criminal reprisal. So, IMHO, before the FBI starts any investigation, the accuser should have to file a formal police complaint. That way everyone’s got skin in the game. Which kinda makes me wonder if Dr. Ford will testify on Thursday, having to be sworn in under oath and all.
 
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Metis1:
I wish some people will stop posting things without looking them up first, and when it comes to background checks, one might look at this: http://gogovernment.org/how_to_apply/next_steps/security_clearance.php
Why are you opposed to charges being filed? Why is the Soros paid lawyer and the porn lawyer opposed to filing charges?
The end goal is not a trial with lots of legal expenses…the end goal is delay, delay, delay, with the hope the clock will run out on Kavanaugh. I don’t buy that the Dems who hid this didn’t know about there not being a statute of limitations in Maryland…they know a trial will not result in a conviction. They just want to delay.
 
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JonNC:
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Metis1:
I wish some people will stop posting things without looking them up first, and when it comes to background checks, one might look at this: http://gogovernment.org/how_to_apply/next_steps/security_clearance.php
Why are you opposed to charges being filed? Why is the Soros paid lawyer and the porn lawyer opposed to filing charges?
The end goal is not a trial with lots of legal expenses…the end goal is delay, delay, delay, with the hope the clock will run out on Kavanaugh. I don’t buy that the Dems who hid this didn’t know about there not being a statute of limitations in Maryland…they know a trial will not result in a conviction. They just want to delay.
There might also be fear of filing false charges.
But if Kavanaugh does not get confirmed, he should file a huge defamation suit.
 
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JonNC:
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Metis1:
I wish some people will stop posting things without looking them up first, and when it comes to background checks, one might look at this: http://gogovernment.org/how_to_apply/next_steps/security_clearance.php
Why are you opposed to charges being filed? Why is the Soros paid lawyer and the porn lawyer opposed to filing charges?
The end goal is not a trial with lots of legal expenses…the end goal is delay, delay, delay, with the hope the clock will run out on Kavanaugh. I don’t buy that the Dems who hid this didn’t know about there not being a statute of limitations in Maryland…they know a trial will not result in a conviction. They just want to delay.
There might also be fear of filing false charges.
But if Kavanaugh does not get confirmed, he should file a huge defamation suit.
He should file it now…why wait.
 
Maryland law enforcement are already saying they are not looking into what Ms. Ford has alleged.
Good grief.
You are talking about a third woman who has come forward with independent allegations.
This is not a statement about what Dr. Ford has said. The local LEO has stated that it is ready investigate Dr. Ford’s allegation should she ask.
 
Let me know when a sitting president was denied a Supreme court appointment. Thinking you will have to go back a long way
 
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JonNC:
Actually, that’s a very partisan position. The non partisan position is to call for the accusers to file charges in Bethesda. The FBI shouldn’t investigate outside their jurisdiction
False-- see above.
Show me where the FBI regularly investigates local or state crimes.
Misrepresentation. Ford is not asking the FBI to investigate this as a crime. They are asked investigate this new aspect of the background of a SCOTUS nominee. That’s something they normally do. And if they had had this accusation in hand at the time they conducted their investigation, they certainly would have investigated it.
 
There might also be fear of filing false charges.
But if Kavanaugh does not get confirmed, he should file a huge defamation suit.
That might be a hard case to win. To prove defamation he would have to prove the accusation is wrong. This is the opposite of the normal situation where the accuser has to prove the accusation to be right.
 
One can hope that, should this attempt to derail Kavanaugh fail, we might see the end of this particular tactic. There are only so many times this approach can be tried before even some of those opposed to the nominee become uncomfortable with just how scurrilous this process has become. I agree with this comment in the Wall Street Journal:

Letting an accusation that is this old, this unsubstantiated and this procedurally irregular defeat Mr. Kavanaugh would also mean weaponizing every sexual assault allegation no matter the evidence. It will tarnish the #MeToo cause with the smear of partisanship, and it will unleash even greater polarizing furies.

That’s the down side: if this works there really is no bottom at which these attacks will stop.
Anyone with a son, or a grandson, should be paying very close attention to this case. Can you imagine 40 years from now when your very successful son or grandson is just about to reach the pinnacle of his career, only to be derailed by a remote allegation from a women whom he doesn’t know, concerning a behavior that he adamantly denies…and his career is ruined, his name is tarnished, all without a shred of evidence.

We are returning to the days of the Salem Witch Trials, only we are stoning warlocks now.

It’s not about the #MeToo movement. It’s about due process. Nobody should be assaulted, sexually or otherwise. And nobody should be attacked like Judge Kavanaugh has been attacked.

Anyone with a father, a husband, a son, or a grandson…can you imagine this happening to your loved one?

Welcome to the America run by the Democrat party.
 
Misrepresentation. Ford is not asking the FBI to investigate this as a crime. They are asked investigate this new aspect of the background of a SCOTUS nominee. That’s something they normally do. And if they had had this accusation in hand at the time they conducted their investigation, they certainly would have investigated it.
Exactly. It should be investigated as a crime in the local jurisdiction. There is only rumor and accusation. That has been investigated by looking at the letter and the denials of some witnesses.
 
A background check is not a criminal investigation. The accusations are of a criminal nature and charges should be filed and investigated in the local jurisdiction
Clearly, you have never had one.
 
That might be a hard case to win. To prove defamation he would have to prove the accusation is wrong. This is the opposite of the normal situation where the accuser has to prove the accusation to be right.
It might be hard, but I think it’s curious that Many of those involved in this happen to be very active anti-Trump operatives, including the Soros paid lawyer and the porn lawyer.
 
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