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LeafByNiggle:
That might be a hard case to win. To prove defamation he would have to prove the accusation is wrong. This is the opposite of the normal situation where the accuser has to prove the accusation to be right.
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It might be hard, but I think it’s curious that Many of those involved in this happen to be very active anti-Trump operatives, including the Soros paid lawyer and the porn lawyer.
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Not curious at all. Who did you think would have the most interest in helping witnesses against Trump’s pick? The question is not who are they and what are their motives. They question is are the accusations true or not, and were any laws broken in the bringing forth of these charges.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Not curious at all. Who did you think would have the most interest in helping witnesses against Trump’s pick? The question is not who are they and what are their motives. They question is are the accusations true or not, and were any laws broken in the bringing forth of these charges.
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Oh, it is much more than that. It is the timing. It is the political motivation. And I would say even the recent history of Democrats in the senate.
But the fact is no charges have been brought forward, on accusations, and they are virtually un-corroborated.
 
JonNC said:
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LeafByNiggle:
Not curious at all. Who did you think would have the most interest in helping witnesses against Trump’s pick? The question is not who are they and what are their motives. They question is are the accusations true or not, and were any laws broken in the bringing forth of these charges.
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Oh, it is much more than that. It is the timing. It is the political motivation.
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Again, when would you expect Democrats to present testimony against a Supreme Court nominee? The only reason it was not brought forth sooner is the reluctance of the witness.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Again, when would you expect Democrats to present testimony against a Supreme Court nominee? The only reason it was not brought forth sooner is the reluctance of the witness.
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Of course I would expect them to dispute his constitutional philosophy.
I believe this wasn’t brought up sooner specifically as a timing issue by Feinstein.
 
She claims that she wasn’t the source of the leak, and apparently there’s no evidence to the contrary as was mention on the “This Week with…” show last Sunday during the panel discussion.
 
Metis1 said:
She claims that she wasn’t the source of the leak, and apparently there’s no evidence to the contrary as was mention on the “This Week with…” show last Sunday during the panel discussion.
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Um, yes. I’ve heard the claim.
 
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He probably should. Extremely overpaid for the product he puts out.
 
humbleseeker said:
So, IMHO, before the FBI starts any investigation, the accuser should have to file a formal police complaint. That way everyone’s got skin in the game. Which kinda makes me wonder if Dr. Ford will testify on Thursday, having to be sworn in under oath and all.
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In this case, there is nothing to charge him with due to statute of limitations, so we can’t require formal charges.

Ford should be required to make an official disclosure of her evidence to the FBI, which would open her up to prosecution if she was lying.
 
In Maryland, you need to file a civil lawsuit within 7 years of your 18th birthday for a childhood sexual offense.

However, when it comes to criminal cases, where the State files on behalf of the victim, Maryland has no statute of limitations for felony sexual offenses. Otherwise, it’s one year for misdemeanor offenses.

I’ve lost track… is this a felony sexual offense she’s accusing him of?
 
Theo520 said:
Ford should be required to make an official disclosure of her evidence to the FBI, which would open her up to prosecution if she was lying.
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By agreeing to testify today, that’s actually what she and Kavanaugh are in essence doing as they’ll be under oath, as I understand. The 3rd accuser has already written her disclosure under penalty of law. Ford has stated that she does want an FBI investigation but Kavanaugh has not agreed to it.
 
Metis1 said:
Ford has stated that she does want an FBI investigation but Kavanaugh has not agreed to it.
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I seriously doubt this is true, if only because Kavanaugh would know his opinion on the matter is irrelevant. He has no control whatever over whether or not the FBI is called in to investigate. Document your charge…or at least stop inventing things.
 
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Ford has stated that she does want an FBI investigation but Kavanaugh has not agreed to it.
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I seriously doubt this is true, if only because Kavanaugh would know his opinion on the matter is irrelevant. He has no control whatever over whether or not the FBI is called in to investigate. Document your charge…or at least stop inventing things.
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It remains a mystery why they refuse to file criminal charges.
 
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Ford has stated that she does want an FBI investigation but Kavanaugh has not agreed to it.
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I seriously doubt this is true, if only because Kavanaugh would know his opinion on the matter is irrelevant. He has no control whatever over whether or not the FBI is called in to investigate. Document your charge…or at least stop inventing things.
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What is there to document? The fact that Kavanaugh did not ask for an FBI investigation? Or the fact that Dr. Ford did? The fact that Kavanaugh has no control over launching an FBI investigation would not preventing him for asking for one. Dr. Ford also does not have control over that, but she asked. If you mean the claim that Kavnaugh was specifically asked if he would like an investigation and he said “no,” that would indeed be a claim too far. I don’t think he was ever asked.

Frankly, I don’t know why the Republicans don’t call for an FBI investigation. If what they say is true, Mark Judge will contradict Dr. Ford’s testimony, as will all the other witnesses, and Kavanaugh’s good name will be cleared.
 
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JonNC said:
It remains a mystery why they refuse to file criminal charges.
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Because the standard of proof is different in a criminal prosecution? Or because the statute of limitations for groping has run out. (It isn’t rape, remember?)
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
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It remains a mystery why they refuse to file criminal charges.
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Because the standard of proof is different in a criminal prosecution? Or because the statute of limitations for groping has run out. (It isn’t rape, remember?)
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There’s no statute of limitations if it is a felony. There are sexual assault crimes that are not rape
The standard of proof? So, it is just more convenient this way?
 
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