Supreme Court Ruling on Health Care

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Evil disguises itself very well. The masses have grown immune to the constant barage, by the media, and the devil is winning. Our morals and culture are in the sewer and we need a miracle. As the patron Saint of the United States, I implore the Virgin Mary to rescue us from evil and save our country. Please pray the Hail Mary today as our country continues its decline!
 
Holly3278 said:
Oh okay. Thanks everyone. When will the court judge on the contraceptive mandate then?

That said, I am really sad and angered that Obamacare wasn’t struck down.
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That remains to be seen. It will probably take awhile to work it’s way through the legal system.
_Abyssinia said:
Romney can make the argument that this is going to be an enormous tax increase on the middle class
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And I’m sure he will. 😉
 
He_Man said:
I was explaining the obvious logic to the poster. Dude, you need to relax, seriously.
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Please, stop the insulting comments, or I will report you. I am perfectly calm and simply posting my opinions. You are free to ignore what I post.
 
cyguy said:
Evil disguises itself very well. The masses have grown immune to the constant barage, by the media, and the devil is winning. Our morals and culture are in the sewer and we need a miracle. As the patron Saint of the United States, I implore the Virgin Mary to rescue us from evil and save our country. Please pray the Hail Mary today as our country continues its decline!
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That is the problem, the vast majority still do not want to be rescued, they do not even see a need to be rescued–thus the situation in which we find our nation.
 
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus Statement on the Supreme Court’s Decision on ObamaCare
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus released the following statement regarding the Supreme Court’s decision on ObamaCare:
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“Today’s Supreme Court decision sets the stakes for the November election. Now, the only way to save the country from ObamaCare’s budget-busting government takeover of health care is to elect a new president,” said RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.
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“Under President Obama’s signature legislation, health care costs continue to skyrocket, and up to 20 million Americans could lose their employer-based coverage. A panel of unelected bureaucrats now has the unprecedented authority to come between elderly patients and their doctors. Meanwhile, the rules and regulations placed on job creators and small businesses make it nearly impossible to hire new workers at a time when Americans desperately need jobs.
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“We need market-based solutions that give patients more choice, not less. The answer to rising health care costs is not, and will never be, Big Government.
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“We must elect a president who understands the economy, respects free enterprise, and can provide the leadership we now so desperately need. On Election Day, we must elect Mitt Romney and put America on the path toward a brighter economic future and successful health care reform.”
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gop.com/index.php/news/comments/rnc_chairman_reince_priebus_statement_on_the_supreme_courts_decision_on_oba/#ixzz1z6KUzAcU
 
_Abyssinia said:
ObamaCare was unpopular before it went ever to court. I think for the most people the unpopularity does not rely on the constitutionality.
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60% of people were against it BEFORE this ruling. That is not a huge number. All if takes is for some of those to now approve of this bill.

HUGE game changing victory for Obama.
 
Marco Rubio
‘What’s important to remember is that what the Court rules on is whether something is constitutional or not, not whether it’s a good idea. And while the Court has said that the law is constitutional, it remains a bad idea for our economy, and I hope that in the fall we will have a majority here that will not just repeal this law, but replace it with real solutions that will insure more people and cost a lot less money.’
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foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/28/reaction-sen-marco-rubio-comments-on-supreme-courts-decision-on-health-care

Rep. Michele Bachmann
'I am deeply disappointed by the court’s decision. Today’s Supreme Court decision raises the stakes for the coming months. Since Congress passed Obamacare in 2010, I have made its repeal my top priority. After leading thousands to Washington to speak against its passage, I was the first to introduce the bill to repeal it. Obamacare represents the largest expansion of entitlement spending and a playground of left-wing social engineering in our country’s history and must be stopped. Now, the only way to save the country from Obamacare’s budget-busting government takeover of health care is to completely repeal it. I disagree with the court’s ruling and expansion of government power under the commerce clause. Government should never have the right to tell Americans what they must purchase.
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“Under President Obama’s signature legislation, health care costs continue to skyrocket, and up to 20 million Americans could lose their employer-based coverage. Innovations in life-saving medical technology, a significant industry in Minnesota is threatened. Meanwhile, a panel of unelected bureaucrats now has the unprecedented authority to come between elderly patients and their doctors. Obamacare is socialized medicine that threatens the quality of our health care and worse, the foundations of our republic.
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“We must replace Obamacare with a system that allows portability, allows individuals to purchase healthcare across state lines, allows individuals to purchase the plan of their choice, and includes tort reform. Real health care reform is about bringing down the cost of healthcare through free-market competition. Real health care reform is about giving families more choices, not less. It is not about empowering big government where doctors and patients have little to no say in the quality of care they receive.
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“Every American should have the opportunity to provide health care for themselves and their family and the freedom to choose the plan that’s best for them. Health care reforms should ensure families and doctors make health care decisions – not Washington bureaucrats and politicians. Millions of Americans are still without access to affordable health care. The Supreme Court’s decision didn’t change that. Americans deserve real market based reforms, not big government, to increase access to the greatest health care system in the world’
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foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/28/statement-michele-bachmann-vows-to-fight-for-full-scale-repeal-of-obamacare
 
FromTheAshes777 said:
Prepare my friends, prepare. The precedent that this sets opens up so many possibilities for what the government can legally force people to do. There is a serious persecution coming against the Church and many other people of faith besides Catholics. Pray, study Scripture, read the Saints, be faithful to the Sacraments, prepare for what is coming, and lift up your hearts to the Lord that we may stand fast and true.
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Watch the movie, “For Greater Glory.”
 
irishpatrick said:
Please, stop the insulting comments, or I will report you. I am perfectly calm and simply posting my opinions. You are free to ignore what I post.
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I didn’t insult your comments. I made a recommendation. You’re reacting way to virulently to posts that aren’t even addressed to you.

And you keep repeating the same thing - gamechanger, gamechanger, gamechnger. We get it - you think it is a gamechanger.
 
Forgive me if I don’t have a ton of sympathy for the USSCB who just two years ago supported this thing. Any persecution it brings, they deserve if they endorsed it. If they opposed it, they are unfortunate casualties of war, as are the rest of us.

My sympathy is for those who will suffer but opposed it from the get go.
 
I, for one, think that this is a great decision. The SCOTUS invalidated the use of the commerce clause as justification for the FEDGOV to do as they will. That is huge (and is not being reported, btw)

Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. Congress already possesses expansive power to regulate what people do. Upholding the Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give Congress the same license to regulate what people do not do. The Framers knew the difference between doing something and doing nothing. They gave Congress the power to regulate commerce, not to compel it. Ignoring that distinction would undermine the principle that the Federal Government is a government of limited and enumerated powers. The individual mandate thus cannot be sustained under Congress’s power to “regulate Commerce.”

Also, another tremendous part of the decision is that the court invalidated the Medicaid expansion.

Yes, the court upheld the mandate… .as a tax…but, when employers start to drop coverage for their folks and others start laying off people, that will be quickly fixed. Many folks are already resentful because of what has happened to their premiums due to Obamacare. When the other shoe drops, it will be almost impossible, politically, to support it.

For immediate purposes, I fully grant that the decision is pretty grim. But there are some little gems in there that need to be considered.
 
He_Man said:
That’s fine. I and many others think you’re wrong.
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I think the losing side would have been the one with the energized base. I would have worried more about the election, had ACA been overturned.

I know this defeat has energized me! :cool:

In the meantime, the decision is still a little disconcerting.

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irishpatrick said:
So what? Does not matter, most people do not give much thought to the unborn. Sad, but true.
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I actually care a great deal about the unborn and am pro-LIFE. However, I also care about the plight of the poor and disenfranchised in society which (since we’re generalizing already :rolleyes:) Republicans IMO don’t seem to care about. I am NOT pro-business. I am pro-people. This bill isn’t perfect but it is a huge step forward for poor uninsured and underinsured people.
 
ringil said:
Remember Romneycare? Would be kind of hypocritical don’t you think?
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RomneyCare did not increase taxes. ObamaCare will create $500 billion plus of new taxes on businesses and individuals.
 
_Abyssinia said:
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus Statement on the Supreme Court’s Decision on ObamaCare

gop.com/index.php/news/comments/rnc_chairman_reince_priebus_statement_on_the_supreme_courts_decision_on_oba/#ixzz1z6KUzAcU
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I keep hearing about how Romney has promised to repeal “Obamacare” on Day 1. Would he even have the authority to do that? Can a President just decide to repeal an act of Congress like that? I know he can veto it, but repealing it would seem to be different.

Maybe I’m just uneducated on how it all works. :o
 
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