Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage

[KSU]

I believe that if the Catholic hierarchy and other advocates of traditional marriage had expressed a willingness for a separation between civil and religious marriage, we may not be seeing this current situation.

I, personally have no problem with same-sex civil unions and I wish that that was the situation we found ourselves in now.

My friend, I understand why you may think that. You certainly have the company of some good, well-intentioned people.

But, the force driving the militant homosexual lobby loves to hear that sort of naivete. The objective has never been civil unions; it’s the elimination of Christian and politically Conservative influence in America; i.e., the elimination of the loathed and feared Religious Right which is and has always been the foundation of America’s decency.

Our Founding Fathers (the original Religious Right) entered into a civil partnership with the Divine. That has been the sole reason for our decency, otherwise known as American Exceptionalism-- the proposition that our rights and true freedoms come from God, not the Supreme Court or the President or the Legislature.

The aforesaid force driving the homosexual lobby is the same force driving the baby-killing lobby and the pornography lobby. Offering sacrifice to that force with civil unions; abortion only after rape or incest; and “entertainment” filth only for adults places us on a path to Sodom and Gomorrah.

We Catholics know that God can’t be expected to continue to bless America after our governors have rejected the partnership with the Divine. Our governors no longer want American Exceptionalism. After all, hedonists have a constitutional right not to be offended, and constitutional rights to dignity and privacy. Obviously, that’s not decency or wisdom speaking; it’s evil–our ancient enemy force.

 

[Laurent_LUG]

Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage:

My true honest opinion about this , no problem at all ;
in fact , if they are happy with it , fine by me

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:
– Laurent LUG (.@…), july 2, 2015

 

[Peter_Plato]

Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage:

My true honest opion about this , no problem at all ;
in fact , if they are happy with it , fine by me

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:
– Laurent LUG (.@…), july 2, 2015

So, in other words, you are not in the least concerned about what others do unless it affects you personally. Is that what you are saying?

And the reason for that stance is that you believe whatever you do, as long as you choose it, is “fine by” you. Correct?

Therefore by the principle of live and let live, others are “free” to do whatever they want and you don’t care enough to even be bothered about what they do. Again, correct?

Or, by the golden rule, you don’t want anyone doing anything to you so you refrain from doing anything to them.

You have nothing invested in “them” so what “they” do is their business and their business alone.

Hit the nail on the head, no?

 

[Michael1978]

Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage:

My true honest opinion about this , no problem at all ;
in fact , if they are happy with it , fine by me

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:
– Laurent LUG (.@…), july 2, 2015

So when the florist and the baker are happy not to participate in a ss “marriage” you’ll be fine with that, too, right?

 

[Laurent_LUG]

Peter Plato or everyone else , i’m not to here to judge anyone
Can i ask , What is happiness

In this case , there is no crime involved , and/also
Same Sex Marriage now is a legalized civil marriage

I also red about a strange decision from an Australian couple:
huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/11/couple-divorce-marriage-equality-australia_n_7558506.html

May i ask , suppose:
What would you do if they make a marriage between man & woman illegal

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:
– Laurent LUG (.@…), july 2, 2015

 

[Laurent_LUG]

So when the florist and the baker are happy not to participate in a ss “marriage” you’ll be fine with that, too, right?

In such case , the best option is to find another store
Again , i’m not here to judge anyone .

I’ve red an article about a bakery store
aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple

Also recently in Northern Ireland there is such a case too:
theguardian.com/society/2015/may/19/northern-ireland-ashers-baking-company-guilty-discrimination-gay-marriage-cake

In such case , i’d choose to find another store
But both couples decided to settle things out in court .

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

So saying “the USA is a Christian Nation” is only a statement of religious demographics?

How else would you determine the religious nature of a country without using demographics?

Why is a Muslim country a Muslim country…architecture?

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage:

My true honest opinion about this , no problem at all ;
in fact , if they are happy with it , fine by me

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:
– Laurent LUG (.@…), july 2, 2015

Welcome to the Forum, non believer.

Are you as happy as this guy…

 

[Laurent_LUG]

Not all gay-people look like the one showen on the picture

 

[ThinkingSapien]

How else would you determine the religious nature of a country without using demographics?

Why is a Muslim country a Muslim country…architecture?

Not ever one means the same thing when they say this is or is not a Christian nation. Though I think these small differences usually go unnoticed.

There are those that say that a majority of the people in this country identify as Christian but then also declare that the nation itself is not founded on Christianity. They often refer to the line in the treaty of Tripoli that is written as:

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

Those that have this view see Christianity as a private position but when it comes to ruling the nation say that the principals of one of the Christian denominations need not be the basis of USA law. In that sense those declare that this isn’t a “Christian nation” even if a majority of the people in the nation self-identify as Christians.

Then there are those that say that the Government of the USA is founded on Christianity and that even if Christians were in the minority as long as the government continues with the same principals that it is a Christian nation.

I had asked if you were speaking from a demographic perspective to qualify which one of the usages of the phrase “Christian Nation” that you were using.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

Not all gay-people look like the one showen on the picture

You have to be kidding…how else would we know they are gay?

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

Not ever one means the same thing when they say this is or is not a Christian nation. Though I think these small differences usually go unnoticed.

There are those that say that a majority of the people in this country identify as Christian but then also declare that the nation itself is not founded on Christianity. They often refer to the line in the treaty of Tripoli that is written as:Those that have this view see Christianity as a private position but when it comes to ruling the nation say that the principals of one of the Christian denominations need not be the basis of USA law. In that sense those declare that this isn’t a “Christian nation” even if a majority of the people in the nation self-identify as Christians.

Then there are those that say that the Government of the USA is founded on Christianity and that even if Christians were in the minority as long as the government continues with the same principals that it is a Christian nation.

I had asked if you were speaking from a demographic perspective to qualify which one of the usages of the phrase “Christian Nation” that you were using.

A reading of the Declaration of Independence as well as the Constitution and the Federalist papers show that our country was FOUNDED on Christian principals.

 

[Laurent_LUG]

You have to be kidding…how else would we know they are gay?

For example:
imdb.com/list/ls005591394
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_city_councillors_from_the_United_States

 

[Midwest88]

Not all gay-people look like the one showen on the picture

How would you know that the person is gay? As you noted in your last post LGB look like you and me.

 

[Midwest88]

Country’s First Gay Divorce Firm Opens In Philadelphia

philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/07/02/countrys-first-gay-divorce-firm-opens-in-philadelphia/

I thought there were NO differences between a hetero and homosexual marriage.

Corcoran says he celebrated the Supreme Court decision to have marriage equality throughout the United States, but he quickly realized it was unlikely all of the new marriages would end in bliss.

He says that is why he launched a new division entirely devoted to LGBT divorce.

“The genesis of this idea began about a year ago when Judge Jones, out in Harrisburg, legalized marriage for all in Pennsylvania. I was out that night with a couple of friends and I came up with that idea. We were talking about the fact that, at some point down the line, there’s going to be a need for gays to get divorced, and I thought wouldn’t be funny if that website was called AdamVsSteve.com. Then the year went by and I thought more and more about it, I realized that there really is a certain kind of empowerment and benevolence in taking what was formerly a derogatory term or a denigration and turning it into some matter of empowerment. And it’s for a good service. These people are entitled to equal rights just like the rest of us.”

He adds, “**The whole thing about the sanctity of straight marriage being compromised by the notion of a homosexual union is the most ridiculous nonsense imaginable and it was high time to use some tongue-in-cheek humor and turn the denigrations that have been used against so many of my friends and family members, to flip it a little bit.”
**
The law office’s website says it is “proud to be the first law firm in the U.S. to practice in the field of gay divorce, providing Private Client Domestic Services, 24/7 and coast to coast, regardless of your sexual orientation.”

Corcoran has yet to receive any requests to assist with a same-sex divorce but is happy to be available for those who will need his services.

“It was an endeavor that, in good conscience, I had to put out. It was a good idea and a good idea after decades of really oppressive conditions with regard to this kind of thing in the United States

Why label it “gay” divorce if, as Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy says, same-sex marriage is just marriage?

 

[Laurent_LUG]

How would you know that the person is gay? As you noted in your last post LGB look like you and me.

Maybe their behaviour (some of them)

One of my cousins is gay , and you wouldn’t say so ,
his friend is on the same page , but …
but a lesbian couple i know (friends of mine ) , both look like men

In fact , to me , it doesn’t matter how they look like

There is only sort of person who i’ll really never would make friends:
peadophiles - child abusers
I’d really love to see them get arrested , the sooner the better !!!

 

[ThinkingSapien]

A reading of the Declaration of Independence as well as the Constitution and the Federalist papers show that our country was FOUNDED on Christian principals.

I am not inclined to argue that it is or is not. But I so like to occasionally hear what other people say on the matter.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

I thought there were NO differences between a hetero and homosexual marriage.

Why label it “gay” divorce if, as Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy says, same-sex marriage is just marriage?

It may be good marketing to attract a certain sector of the market ( regardless of semantic nuances).

 

[Julianna]

You have to be kidding…how else would we know they are gay?

You can’t be serious.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Fr Barron on the SCOTUS Same-Sex Marriage Ruling: youtu.be/XULEzTUua8U