Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage

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I thought the president was supposed to be unbiased. Silly me. 🤷
I’ve never seen an unbiased president. Everything they do comes from a place of bias. They all try to influence our country based on their political beliefs.

A republican president would never nominate an openly pro choice judge to the supreme court. Is that bias? Of course it is.

As is said so often, elections have consequences.
 
I am not a lawyer, and this probably varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but I believe the word of mouth thing would work in many places. It is only in offering services in a place of public accommodation that you become subject to anti-discrimination laws such as those used in these cases.

Whether you rent or own your kitchen seems irrelevant. Am I missing something?:confused:
cherry picking posts and not reading everything I have said is getting to be annoying.

It was suggested by not having a store front and using a private kitchen, the bakers would then avoid be put into a situation that conflicts with their belief system.
They would not be open to the public, capeesh?
Bakeries don’t ā€˜do’ gay weddings. They just bake cakes.
Anti discrimination laws for homosexuals are important because they are not just being forced to do a job they willingly chose to offer to the public, they are facing genuine discrimination such as being forced to drink bleach and having ā€œdie f@gā€ carved into their arms. Worlds apart from being denied a wedding cake, you may think, but the extremists take aid and comfort from the slightly less extreme who likewise take aid and comfort, eventually, from those who do no more than say that they would no more bake a cake for a gay wedding than for a paedophile one.
I am not opposed to sane and sensible get out clauses for religious objectors, many such clauses already exist, but a blanket rule that anti-discrimination laws just do not apply to religious people is not sane or sensible, IMO.
To be clear, I don’t feel the same sex couples in many of these cases were acting reasonably in suing. But I do feel they were within the law, and the bakeries generally were not.
I was responding to the poster who said that not only were they required to bake the cake but to set up at the wedding site.
And yes, people who are involved in wedding planning, photography, baking, cooking, decorating, etc ā€œdo weddingsā€.

Please read my posts. You have no idea of my position on the matter.
 
I would think that whoever went to purchase the materials, considering what they are celebrating, did not get confused and just buy all bulbs or just buy all sockets thinking that it would work either way.🤷

Hey, just sayen.
Ha, ha!
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I’m amazed that people are so angry over the White House rainbow lights thing. They’re reading way too much into it.

This was only done for a couple of hours. For the remaining 364 nights of the year, the White House has been and will be lit by white lights. If the rainbow lights send a bad message, then what kind of message does the exclusive use of *white *lights send?
It was a pretty clear message to those who don’t support homosexual ā€œmarriage.ā€ It was spiking the football and in very poor and immature taste and not at all presidential or an act worthy of any leader of the people. The White House is the house of the people, ALL the people, not just some of the people.
 
How can homosexuals have the right to marry when they do not have the capacity to marry?
Because you are wrong - they clearly have the legal capacity as this ruling - and many others- amply attest. You may not think they do - but they do. The Church can fulminate as much as she wants, but it does not make the civil law.
The Obergefell v. Hodges verdict is unjust and immoral. It is not the first time the Supreme Court has handed down an unjust and immoral verdict that gives people the impression that their Creator gave them some right to do evil, but this is definitely one of them.
Do you mean like Plessy v Ferguson or Dred Scott v sandford - or like Brown v Board or Engel v Vitale? BTW the judicial power is to say what the law is…the law is often immoral and unjust…
Did Roe v. Wade settle the question of abortion?
Actually it rather did…though if by ā€œsettledā€ you mean ended all issues, then no, but it clearly is the law and not likely to change… Just like people still hae Brown, the result of the Civil War and all sorts of things…
Did Dred Scott v. Sandford settle the question of slavery? No, they didn’t.
It was never meant to
Those were unjust verdicts, and unjust verdicts do not settle questions of justice.
Unfortunately they were exactly right in the eyes of many. Conservatives delighted in Scott and liberals in Roe…
People who know the difference between right and wrong are not going to just lie down because the Court hands down some plate of awfulness like Casey v. Planned Parenthood or Obergefell v. Hodges.
I fear you are delusional…as time passes they become only more sure and secure…
Those who imagine they ā€œwonā€ yesterday may think this battle is over, but they are very much mistaken.
Oh, my no, the battle is certainly over though maybe not the war. The war will end over time…and it too is already lost to the conservatives.

It seems to me that the Church always get’s itself in a twist when it conflates the civil system with the religious. Edgardo Mortara is a prime example still pertinent today. In stead of trying to deal with the criminalization of abortion, it would do much better to work to change hearts and minds…until them it will lose the civil argument every time. Likewise on gay marriage. The Church by taking the position that the tax, property and personal rights that make up civil marriage is somehow equivalent to sacramental marriage has now managed to contribute to this decision. Oh, well.

Nonetheless, the sun will still rise and set. People will be born, live and die. The tides will still ebb and flow…
 
All the LGBTQ, XYZ people should live as one big happy family… on an island. Then in 40 years they will be headed for extinction, since they don’t procreate. We may have to leave out the B’s from the group, though!

It would be like Sodom & Gomorra in the Bible.

Adam & Steve never would have lasted too long, to multiply & fill the earth. . šŸ˜›
 
I get that some are speculating as to whether or not certain institutions may have known the outcome beforehand, but I don’t see how that makes any difference so I don’t understand the point.

Chrisl
I think the outcome was expected by the White House and most people. But, it would have been lit up anyway to show support no matter what ruling was issued. It just so happens that the ruling was correct and the lighting was part of the celebration.
 
Well said.

Regarding the lights at Disneyland, I think that old Walt Disney would have been appalled at what has become of his theme park. I, for one, won’t be visiting Disneyland again. There are other family theme parks, such as Silver Dollar City in Missouri. Okay…it’s like Disneyland for Hillbillies, but it’s fun (I’ve been there), and the family who owns it is Christian (Protestant, I think):

cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/December/Silver-Dollar-Family-Strikes-Gold-with-Godly-Values-/
I agree on all points.

We’ve been going to Branson the last few years. It is family-friendly and Silver Dollar City is a fun theme park. Of course, we know this ruling will change things all over this nation…

Since we are talking about the decorating at the White House, perhaps the more appropriate choice would have been black mourning bunting, since our freedoms and our once-great nation no longer exist as they were…
 
Since we are talking about the decorating at the White House, perhaps the more appropriate choice would have been black mourning bunting, since our freedoms and our once-great nation no longer exist as they were…
Agreed
 
Actually this country is a melting pot of different cultures and religions.
Yes - a ā€œmelting potā€ where some of the ingredients are under attack by the ā€œchef,ā€ who’s trying to take them out of the mix.
 
All the LGBTQ, XYZ people should live as one big happy family… on an island. Then in 40 years they will be headed for extinction, since they don’t procreate. We may have to leave out the B’s from the group, though!

It would be like Sodom & Gomorra in the Bible.

Adam & Steve never would have lasted too long, to multiply & fill the earth. . šŸ˜›

How do you pronounce LGBTQ? Also, is it allowed to spell it alphabetically as: BGLQT?
Does it have to be spelled out in rainbow colors? Did the House fund the light bill for the WH light show? So many questions that go unanswered. As an example, what does the ā€œQā€ stand for? and I have no idea who the XYZ people are. :confused:
 
So glad to know that you like Silver dollar City, too, and Branson. šŸ™‚
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There is so much to do there. Silver Dollar City and the music shows are great. We also enjoy the Dixie Stampede. Last year (or maybe the time before that, I can’t remember), we toured the Titanic Museum. It was a wealth of information and history and we just stumbled on it. Another time, we found a dinosaur museum that everyone enjoyed. Of course, we always play mini golf too and enjoy the fish hatchery and outdoor things too, hiking, boating. My kids haven’t seen the ā€œShepherd of the Hillsā€ play yet, but I hope they will someday and I think there is a Bible museum that would be great to see. There are many other things to do there that we haven’t gotten to as yet.

I think one should make a point to just drive the strip once, just to see it. It is something one must see to truly appreciate :D:p
 
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