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That’s why we are overun with those crazy Canadians every winter. They are a real menace
Supreme Court strikes down key provisions, but not all, of Arizona immigration law
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How many white people do you think will be asked to prove their citizenship?That is NOT true. There was no provision in the Az. law that allowed police to stop people at will and ask for papers. It expressly disallowed it. Once again, the left has lied to you. It is up to each liberal whether and when you will stop listening to the radicals. For me, once someone willfully lies to me, I distrust them always. EVERYTHING you hear in leftist circles is either distorted or an outright lie.Rob
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God willing, Ellipsis, your family will never suffer at the hands of illegal gangs. Many others HAVE been irreparably victimized. You are a Utopian, which this fleetingly free society allows you to be. But, the jails are full of illegals who have committed felonies. I care about the suffering of the victims, and many Utopians focus on the illusory Dream Society of a future that never arrives.
No society can survive unless wealth and property is respected, and the rule of law is respected. No society can survive with political leaders preaching envy and class warfare, and acting like ruthless strongmen instead of servants of the people. :): Rob
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RACJ
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Whites will be asked for ID if they have committed a transgression just like everyone else Bob, and you know it. When has a policeman ever accepted your word when he pulls you over, and not demanded you license? :doh2: Rob
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Are we talking about “for profit” prisons? The prison industry lobbied big time to get the original law passed. Why do you think they spent so much money?God willing, Ellipsis, your family will never suffer at the hands of illegal gangs. Many others HAVE been irreparably victimized. You are a Utopian, which this fleetingly free society allows you to be. But, the jails are full of illegals who have committed felonies. I care about the suffering of the victims, and many Utopians focus on the illusory Dream Society of a future that never arrives.
No society can survive unless wealth and property is respected, and the rule of law is respected. No society can survive with political leaders preaching envy and class warfare, and acting like ruthless strongmen instead of servants of the people.
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Exactly.
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RACJ
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I expected that you’d obfuscate or ignore my point about crime victims, but never would I have expected that your problem with prisons might be that some are for profit! Illegals are filling EVERY type of prison. Not every illegal comes here for freedom and a better life.
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I guess I’m not the Lone Ranger.I expected that you’d obfuscate or ignore my point about crime victims, but never would I have expected that your problem with prisons might be that some are for profit! Illegals are filling EVERY type of prison. Not every illegal comes here for freedom and a better life.
huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/arizona-immigration-law-ruling-private-prisons-_n_1625998.html
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Ridgerunner
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Nice try, but no cigar. If one is trying to represent that “the bishops of the U.S.” are telling the faithful that “so-and-so” is the teaching of the Church, it is incumbent on the one so representing to demonstrate that it’s actually true.
It is not the burden of the one who points out that it is the lone bishop or bureaucrat here and there who seems to be the only one saying “so-and-so”, when it is manifestly the case and when the one representing that that lone speaker somehow represents the whole fails to demonstrate it.
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allrpunished
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Let’s get this straight: You truly believe that when the USCCB issues a press release that is a position and statement on an issue, it represents only the opinion of the chairman who is signing the release, and not of his Office and not of the USCCB?
Do you believe this about all press releases in general? Not to put too fine a point on it, but for example, when a business issues a press release, do you think it is only the opinion of the PR director, and not of the business? And White House press releases – are they only the opinion of the Press Secretary, and not an official representation that reflects the whole organization?
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allrpunished
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This is truly disturbing. I know that in California, the prison guard lobby is one of the strongest, and they constantly lobby for tougher laws so that they can keep the prisons full and keep themselves in work. It’s disgusting. They are in favor of more fathers or mothers going to jail, of families being torn apart, so prison guards will have something to do.
The fact that they lobby in favor of this Arizona immigration law, simply so they will have more business, is just sickening.
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The people who feel guilty b/c they were born with white skin, in conjunction with those who loathe whites, are not seeking to advance other cultures to OUR level, but they rather seek to bring US down. It really comes down to this: People who live in America illegally are lawbreakers, and in virtually every other country they would be treated as scofflaws or worse. Democrats know that such people who are unconcerned about the rule of law are much more likely to vote for socialist programs and parties who will offer them more. Thus, our lax immigration policy will ultimately murder the golden goose of freedom. Just keep taking from that dirty 1% until it dies from exhaustion. Then, jungle law prevails. BTW, progressive leaders don’t really care about this, since it is THEY who will be standing atop the sewage pile at the end of it all.Rob
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Nimzovik
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Exduse me but does anyone else get the impression one is a racist just because one is white here? I sure do!
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Elizabeth502
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You know this for a fact in the AZ case, that this was/is their motivation? They have campaigned in AZ explicitly on that basis – to add as many bodies to jails as possible? Or could it just be that in general, prison guards (like policemen, FBI agents, border agents, highway patrol, etc.) favor law enforcement measures as a rule? (Given their profession.) You will find that such people historically tend to support more measures to put lawbreakers even in public facilities, to strengthen/toughen loopholes in criminal law, etc. (Just as do District Attorneys.)
Be careful of coming up with 2 + 2 = 5.
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Ridgerunner
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The analogies don’t really work. It is quite frequent that, e.g., the CEO of a corporation issues a press release that does not reflect the positions others in the business would have had if asked. Probably the least representative of any corporation is the PR director.
As to the white house, the “opinion” of the press secretary represents the opinion of the president only.
Various people in the USCCB issue “press releases”. In the case of the Ryan plan, it wasn’t even a release. It was a letter that wasn’t intended for publication, but was published anyway.
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Nimzovik
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Perhaps this article sheds some light on just why we need ID policies.
politico.com/news/stories/0612/77811.html
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RACJ
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You may not be the Lone Ranger, but all of you are trying to muddle the point that an inordinate number of illegals commit felonies. Somehow you manage to cling to the leftist agenda and spin, despite the suffering of crime victims, which you ignore.
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Nimzovik
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Indeed.
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An Illegal who commits a felon is liable for criminal prosecution whether they are illegal or not. African Americans are statistically more likely top commit a crime that caucasians but that dons mean we can stop them and check their status under the guise of immigration controlYou may not be the Lone Ranger, but all of you are trying to muddle the point that an inordinate number of illegals commit felonies. Somehow you manage to cling to the leftist agenda and spin, despite the suffering of crime victims, which you ignore.
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