Surrogacy and Homosexuality

[LilPuppie]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

 

[PaulfromIowa]

Sadly, it sounds as though you have already separated yourself from Christ and His Church. I hope that you will be able to soften your heart and reconsider. Some things which may have been sold to you as morally harmless are actually violently anti-life.

Read the Church documents Donum Vitae and Dignitas Personae:

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19870222_respect-for-human-life_en.html

ewtn.com/library/CURIA/cdfdigpersbio.HTM

 

[McCartney]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

Pope Francis cannot accept homosexuality because it has been condemned in the Bible. If he wants to accept homosexuality he will have to rewrite the Bible. What he is trying to do is to be compassionate towards them but ultimately it is a sin. In that case let us also say that murder, theft, etc. are not sins any more.

 

[MaryT777]

Sadly, it sounds as though you have already separated yourself from Christ and His Church. I hope that you will be able to soften your heart and reconsider. Some things which may have been sold to you as morally harmless are actually violently anti-life.

Read the Church documents Donum Vitae and Dignitas Personae:

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19870222_respect-for-human-life_en.html

ewtn.com/library/CURIA/cdfdigpersbio.HTM

Well said Paul. I concur.
Mary.

 

[on_the_hill]

and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

Yeeeeah, good luck with that. I don’t think it works quite the way you’re hoping.

 

[petra22]

Pope Francis cannot accept homosexuality because it has been condemned in the Bible. If he wants to accept homosexuality he will have to rewrite the Bible. What he is trying to do is to be compassionate towards them but ultimately it is a sin. In that case let us also say that murder, theft, etc. are not sins any more.

This is my take on it also. There is a reason God created them male and female. And he loves ALL of his children. But, they have free will and sadly almost ALL at some point in their lives choose sin. That’s why we are all sinners and the Father sent his son to direct us to the LIGHT… God doesn’t love the things we choose to do that go against his plan.

 

[Allegra]

This is so backwards to me. If you are searching for the Truth, you find it and your conform your beliefs, words, and actions to it. (Or at least try to) When you look around for a religion that conforms to your own beliefs, that makes you the author of Truth, your own pope, your own prophet, and ultimately your own God.

 

[mountee]

While I appreciate your honesty and respect your right to feel the way you want about things, I can not agree that the Church will be changing it’s teachings with regard to homosexuality. We welcome those with SSA and we extend our prayers and support that they may be able to remain celibate as they go forward. We do not judge anyone but a homosexual sexual life or marriage is not OK in our faith as well as others for the reasons already stated in previous posts.

 

[PhiloMed]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

That’s quite a first post to open with.

What, pray tell, were you expecting people would say?

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

If you look at Pope Francis and his teachings you will see a very differnt pope than the media has led you to believe. Did you know that Pope Francis said that homosexual adoption is a form of child abuse?

The Pope cannot/will not change what Christ has declared.

 

[WingsOfEagles]

I…I…:banghead:

Being a surrogate mother in itself is wrong given that it separates the marital act from the conception of the child. When a child is conceived in that way, many eggs are thrown out if they are deemed “unhealthy”, which is basically an early abortion. A couple that can’t have a natural child should consider adoption/foster care. There are so many children that need a home.

Homosexuality in itself is another matter entirely. Don’t you think it’s prideful to think the Church needs to catch up with YOU? Is this the Gospel according to YOU? The Bible is pretty clear on the matter.

 

[Starrsmother]

I’d say that if this is your attitude, goodbye. How much are the gay couple paying you to be a surrogate?

 

[Demetra2]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

Have you read the church teaching on homosexuality? It is very clear and fair and Pope Francis will not be changing it to suit your desire. You will find it in the catechism. Basically it acknowledges that people with same sex attraction have a heavy cross to carry and we should welcome them into our church and help them carry their cross. But like with unmarried straight people, their cross ( being chaste) MUST be carried . Homosexuals must strive to life a life pleasing to Christ. Hiring you as a surrogate leads them further and further away. You are assisting them in their sin which is not good for any of you and especially the innocent child. You are very wrong to participate and you should talk to a priest, go to confession and resist your problem of pride. I really pray that you come back to the Catholic Church.

 

[marymary1975]

As others pointed out it seems that you are already not in communion with the catholic church. It seems that you left already but haven’t realized it. The churchvyeaching on homosexuality will never change and is very clear. Homosexual acts are sinful, marriage between two people of the same sex is not only unacceptable but it doesn’t exist and surrogacy is intrinsically wrong. None if this will ever change.

This article was published on another thread and I want to repost it because touches the subject wonderfully

catholicstand.com/surrogates-same-sex-couples-motherless-babies/

 

[Joe_5859]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

Welcome!

As others have said, surrogacy itself is intrinsically immoral, whether for a heterosexual couple or a homosexual couple. Just as contraception is wrong for wanting sex without babies, surrogacy is wrong for wanting babies without sex. Separating the creation of children from the act that was designed to produce them is wrong.

I pray you will reconsider leaving the Catholic Church. Look at what you are saying, though. You want the Church to “catch up” with your beliefs. That is not the best way to approach our faith. Our Catholic faith is that which has been revealed by God. In all humility, how can we but seek to align our hearts and minds to what God has revealed rather than expecting God to make things easy for us and teach only that which we already accept?

Pope Francis’ preaching of tolerance will not lead to a change in moral teaching. Pope Francis’ full statement to that reporter last year was: “If a person is gay and seeks the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge him?” That in no way implies that the Church is going to change the teaching on the immorality of homosexual acts (that can never happen). What it is is an affirmation of the oft-neglected and forgotten Catholic teaching that we do not reject people simply because of their orientation. That does not imply that same sex activity is okay or that they can do no wrong. It is the same for all of us. We all sin. But God alone is our judge. And every day we appeal to His mercy.

God bless you.

 

[CHRISTINE77]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

How much money are you getting for doing this selfless act?

 

[sw85]

I have been a lifelong Catholic, albeit a lapsed one. I have been a gestational surrogate for a wonderful married couple and was able to help them have a beautiful son (theirs biologically). My next surrogacy will be for an awesome same-sex couple, and I would like to know the churches teachings on the subject. I am determined to help them have a family, they are as deserving as any traditional couple, and if the church views this as wrong I am prepared to renounce Catholicism and leave the church. I believe Pope Francis’ teachings of tolerance will eventually lead to acceptance of homosexuality and the church will eventually catch up with my beliefs if it hasn’t already

As has been said, the Church views IVF as a grave affront to human dignity – to the right of a child to be conceived in love by his parents and not by a lab-coated stranger in a Petri dish, and to the dignity of woman, who is called to something higher than selling her body to the modern-day equivalent of a Nazi stud farm. It is obscene, undignified, and an act of desecration of that which is sacred.

 

[theCrow]

“Just as contraception is wrong for wanting sex without babies”

Heaven forbid anyone would want to have sex…for pleasure.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

“Just as contraception is wrong for wanting sex without babies”

Heaven forbid anyone would want to have sex…for pleasure.

Like eating, having sex is pleasurable. God designed it that way. There is a reason.

We eat to survive. We have sex to procreate. Both “feel good” because they are necessary and God wants us to do them.

Over indulgence in eating (doing it just for pleasure) is not good. It ruins your health and displeases God because that was not what He designed it for.

Same with sex. God designed that for procreation. He made it "feel good"so we would all “go fourth and multiply.” To defeat that purpose, defeats God’s design.

 

[LilPuppie]

Wow, I never expected to find such judgement (not everyone). How much MONEY am I getting? It’s not about money. I live in Canada, paid surrogacy is illegal. For every penny I receive I have to have a receipt proving it’s a pregnancy related expense, not that that was a factor in my question.

I’m doing what I feel in my heart is right. If being true to the church would mean denying a family to someone, the church loses. If children are truly gifts from God, God has a poorly researched gift list. Perhaps I am being prideful, or selfish, or I’ve already left the church behind. But I believe God’s love is only rivalled by the love of a parent, and in choosing to do this I believe I am honoring God. He created us in His image, gay or straight. If I am wrong, I am prepared to someday answer to Him for that. I’ve been Catholic my whole life, as are my parents and their parents before them, but I have to be true to myself before I can be true to a book that also tells me I can’t eat shellfish.