Susan Rice requested to unmask names of Trump transition officials, sources say

[Michael68]

If this is what Trumo was referring to in his tweet, why not say "Susan rice had members of my cabinet unmasked " back in march when he said Obama was wiretapping him and called him sick.

Why not be clear insead of going down multiple roads?

And no one thinks it weird he cited Fox and Friends? Steve Doocy is an investigative journalist?

Well, she was in the Obama administration. We can reasonably assume she was following orders just like when she was ordered to lie on all the Sunday talk about Benghazi. Its not The Susan Rice administration, its the Barack Obama administration and she does nothing without orders. President Trump was right about the idea and worded it wrong. The dishonest media and the left are playing word games like we are fools.
Obama can’t get out of this by claiming he saw it in the news just like us, this time!

 

[Sophie_Lawrence]

Well, she was in the Obama administration. We can reasonably assume she was following orders just like when she was ordered to lie on all the Sunday talk about Benghazi. Its not The Susan Rice administration, its the Barack Obama administration and she does nothing without orders. President Trump was right about the idea and worded it wrong. The dishonest media and the left are playing word games like we are fools.

They were his words though, multiple tweets saying Obama had his wires tapped.

He was never the direct subject of the investigation. Some people in Russia were, who were talking to trump people were picked up on surveillance.

He wasn’t at all clear in his tweets.

 

[Michael68]

They were his words though, multiple tweets saying Obama had his wires tapped.

He was never the direct subject of the investigation. Some people in Russia were, who were talking to trump people were picked up on surveillance.

He wasn’t at all clear in his tweets.

That’s because he’s not a politician and why I like him!
He doesn’t do political speak.

 

[Sophie_Lawrence]

That’s because he’s not a politician and why I like him!
He doesn’t do political speak.

So politicians speak clearly now? He specifically said Obama. Meaning Rice.

He gets up watches TV and tweets what he sees as if he couldn’t get the information from the FBI, or any intelligence agency.

 

[Michael68]

They were his words though, multiple tweets saying Obama had his wires tapped.

He was never the direct subject of the investigation. Some people in Russia were, who were talking to trump people were picked up on surveillance.

He wasn’t at all clear in his tweets.

Once their identities were outed, it became surveillance . President Trump was correct and the Obama administration conducted surveillance on the Trump team before the election for political purposes.

 

[Sy_Noe]

And Susan Rice requested the unmasking from these agencies before the election for the purpose of leaking this information to the media in an attempt to influence the election. So yes, this happened before the election, not after the election.

Source?

Once their identities were outed, it became surveillance . President Trump was correct and the Obama administration conducted surveillance on the Trump team before the election for political purposes.

:yawn:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=14575026&postcount=44

 

[Michael68]

I just watched the interview with Susan Rice by Andrea Mitchell. All I can say is Andrea was restrained during that interview. It was obvious several times during the interview she wanted to ask the obvious follow up questiions to several lies Susan told. Andrea looked down let the silence continue, but did not ask the question as if whoever in her ear was restraining her. I think Andrea actually wanted to get to the truth and wasn’t alllowed to.

That my opinion and I never give Andrea Mitchell credit, its usually the other way around. I actually feel sorry for her

 

[Cathoholic]

. . . Last month when she (Susan Rice) was asked on the “PBS NewsHour” about reports that Trump transition officials, including Trump himself, were swept up in incidental intelligence collection, Rice said: "I know nothing about this, . . .

Dvdjs. I said (parenthetical addition mine now):

And remember she (Susan Rice) just publicly LIED about it days ago (I think it was a week or two ago. You can find it in my earlier posts if you want specifics). I would have expected a “no comment” to the question she was asked instead of a LIE.

You replied in post 78 (here) . . . .

Actually she said, immediately after the comments of Nunes, that she had knowledge of what she was talking about. You should find the full question and the full response and stop falling victim to the gotcha spin of the alt-media. you may not have an agenda, but they do.

But that’s a partial truth dvdjs.

Here is from my post 7 (here). . . .

. . . Last month when she (Susan Rice) was asked on the “PBS NewsHour” about reports that Trump transition officials, including Trump himself, were swept up in incidental intelligence collection, Rice said: “I know nothing about this,” adding, “I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today.” . . .

bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Here is my post number 7.

It appears as though Susan Rice lied initially.

Then later when it was evident she was lying she backtracked.

Susan Rice has a history of this type of behavior and thus is not (in my opinion) worthy of my unfettered trust as a public servant and credible source of information.

Regardless of what I think, she MAY be in a lot of trouble here.

 

[I_trust]

I watched the Susan Rice interview by Andrea Mitchell as well.
Watch Rice’s breath, it is so labored.She is extremely stressed and trying not to show it,She is normally so good at controlling her body language but her hands are fidgeting etc.

Her answers are often qualified at the end by “not by the White house”

So when asked a question like did the White House spy on Trump…No… the spying on Trump was happening, not by the White House, but by one of the intelligence communities who then briefed her. Which is essentially the same thing and the way it always works.

An additional story is emerging… that someone in the intelligence community was telling Rice which reports she should ask to be unmasked.

She also admitted that the intelligence reports on the Trump team became more and more frequent over the year that they monitored them.

 

[Cathoholic]

It would be interesting to know if the Obama administration was surveilling Senator Cruz too (or for that matter ANY of the other candidates from Rand Paul, to Scott Walker, to even Bernie or Hillary).

If they WERE, it would LOOK terrible, and would suggest something more than the usual would need to be done by Washington to clean up their mess.

And it really needs to be directed at themselves and NOT against law abiding citizens.

 

[Reuben_J]

So politicians speak clearly now? He specifically said Obama. Meaning Rice.

If Rice did it, the surveillance was as good as done by Obama. Why go for the small fry when it was the boss that wanted it.

 

[dvdjs]

It appears as though Susan Rice lied initially.

I asked that you examine the full question and full response.
Instead you repeat a part of the response and no question.
Looking only at a a small bit of the story, you really are on no position to say how things appear.

 

[Michael68]

I asked that you examine the full question and full response.
Instead you repeat a part of the response and no question.
Looking only at a a small bit of the story, you really are on no position to say how things appear.

You’re in no position any better than us. We’ve seen her comments. She lied just like Benghazi. No reason to assume our eyes and ears don’t work!

 

[dvdjs]

You’re in no position any better than us. We’ve seen her comments. She lied just like Benghazi. No reason to assume our eyes and ears don’t work!

Catholic gave no question and a snippet of a much longer answer.
Did you seethe full, unedited question and the full comment?
If you did not, then I am in a better position that you.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Susan Rice may ‘be of interest to us,’ says Senate Intelligence chairman

washingtonpost.com/powerpost/susan-rice-may-be-of-interest-to-us-says-senate-intelligence-chairman/2017/04/04/c6f58bd6-195c-11e7-855e-4824bbb5d748_story.html?utm_term=.43e23413932b

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Susan Rice maintained detailed spreadsheets of Trump associates’ phone calls.

Susan Rice’s husband is an executive with ABC news.

 

[Michael68]

Catholic gave no question and a snippet of a much longer answer.
Did you seethe full, unedited question and the full comment?
If you did not, then I am in a better position that you.

What makes you think this is legal?
Can you name a past administration that unmasked Americans not part of surveillance?
What other administration leaked said info in an attempt to influence an election.

If your in such a better position answer those Mr. Know it all!

 

[dvdjs]

What makes you think this is legal?

Most notably, the on-record statements to that effect by other NSA directors in the articles I linked to.

Can you name a past administration that unmasked Americans not part of surveillance?

Whenever unmasking occurs, the unmasked person was incidental of the surveillance; I have not heard any suggestion that targets are masked. On-record statements from other NSA directors in the articles I linked to indicated that this practice was not uncommon and specifically noted requests during the G.W. Bush administration.

What other administration leaked said info in an attempt to influence an election.

First, the idea that an “administration leaked” is interesting. Leaking is unlawful, as I have repeatedly indicated, is more likely to be the practice of an individual in an administration rather than an administration. I think that applies to the recent leaking from the Trump administration.

In all the disclosures so far, there is no evidence that leaking in an attempt to influence and election was done by any administration including Obama’s.

… your in such a better position answer those Mr. Know it all!

I don’t know it all, but I do have the habit of looking at the information available before posting, providing some links in my posts, and responding to requests for sources.

 

[Michael68]

Most notably, the on-record statements to that effect by other NSA directors in the articles I linked to.

Whenever unmasking occurs, the unmasked person was incidental of the surveillance; I have not heard any suggestion that targets are masked. On-record statements from other NSA directors in the articles I linked to indicated that this practice was not uncommon and specifically noted requests during the G.W. Bush administration.

First, the idea that an “administration leaked” is interesting. Leaking is unlawful, as I have repeatedly indicated, is more likely to be the practice of an individual in an administration rather than an administration. I think that applies to the recent leaking from the Trump administration.

In all the disclosures so far, there is no evidence that leaking in an attempt to influence and election was done by any administration including Obama’s.

I don’t know it all, but I do have the habit of looking at the information available before posting, providing some links in my posts, and responding to requests for sources.

Giving the President a spreadsheet of these unmasked names is normal procedure? Is there usually an urgency to get more of this info before an election?
If these Americans are not accused of anything, why does the administration need to know who they? Why is this not considered surveillance now?

 

[dvdjs]

Susan Rice maintained detailed spreadsheets of Trump associates’ phone calls.

What you say is almost true, but very misleading. What was tracked were the poper subset of their calls or reference to them in calls of other people being surveilled. By the time of the transition, there were active investigations going in in the FBI for which these clls were relevant. She was doing her job.

Tweets from former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul

Has everyone forgotten that the FBI has an ongoing investigation of contacts between Trump campaign aides and Russian government?

Susan Rice should have been interested in knowing the facts here. To not do so would have dereliction of duty

And, btw,

This story just gets weirder and weirder. During Obama transition in 2008 (I was his Russia advisor back then ) we met with 0 Russians. 0

Trump aides should have focused on building national security team & not meeting Russians during transition. Already April & few in place !