Systemic Racism? Make Them Prove It. - Andrew McCarthy

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blackforest said:
Do you consider Planned Parenthood an example of systemic racism?
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Yes, if Planned Parenthood clinics are much more prevalent in minority areas:

79% of Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinics Target Blacks, Hispanics - LifeNews.com

As Planned Parenthood marks its 96th anniversary today, new research shows the abortion business targets blacks and Hispanics by putting 79% of its abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods. New research released by Protecting Black Life (an outreach of Life Issues Institute) reveals that 79%...
www.lifenews.com

Research has been done, if the clinic is not directly in the neighborhood, it is within walking distance, this factoid has been checked. Some say it is not so.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
There is no law that prevents a judge from issuing racially-biased discretionary sentences. The judge, of course, will deny that racism plays any part in his decisions.
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A consistent track record will not lie.
LeafByNiggle said:
Statistics alone are not enough to convict a judge of anything illegal. If he sentences blacks to slightly longer terms he can always say he was acting within his discretion.
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Thrn you have to prove racism. This is always the case. Presumption of innocence. But the argument you’re making is proof that this is individual racism, not systemic or institutional racism.
LeafByNiggle said:
No, there is no law that identifies any statistics on a judge’s ruling as being racist
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If a judge consistently gives blacks a longer sentence than whites for the same crimes, this is certainly evidence of misconduct.
 
blackforest said:
I would agree.

So would you agree with my that systemic racism does indeed exist? If so, is Planned Parenthood the only example?
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I am sure there are a number of examples.

Near the mall there is this t-shirt store, I’d say they discriminate against young people. Think they are going to rip them off. I could feel that very strongly there once and left. This was some time ago but still.

But I will leave it at that. Such a subject could be talked of all day.
 
JonNC said:
If a judge consistently gives blacks a longer sentence than whites for the same crimes, this is certainly evidence of misconduct.
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But they are never exactly the same crimes, are they? The judge can always claim that, in his opinion, the circumstances were difference enough. Really, you are claiming that some sort of oversite exists that would catch this, but it just doesn’t. Can you cite one single judge who has ever been removed for giving statistically different sentences to blacks? Nope. It just doesn’t happen.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Can you cite one single judge who has ever been removed for giving statistically different sentences to blacks?
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I have heard of this in the past. But I am terrible at searching for stuff. I have also seen judges been publicly “shamed” by their state Supreme Court for being harsh. I think the last one I saw was in Florida. A woman begged the judge to be lenient, that she was going through a lot. The Judge was harsh, and told her that it was of no excuse. Well, it turned out that the female indeed was having a hard time, I do not remember the specifics, and the Supreme Court of Florida gave her a talking to, publicly.

What is the problem? It is not that this things do not happen. It is that this things are not reported. They do not produce NEWS.
 
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I am just so surprised that in a Catholic forum like this, a former judge and columnist for the National Review gets more attention on the subject of racism than the bishops in the United States:
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Have you experienced Racism?
 
Rockoh22 said:
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LeafByNiggle:
I am just so surprised that in a Catholic forum like this, a former judge and columnist for the National Review gets more attention on the subject of racism than the bishops in the United States:
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Have you experienced Racism?
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Anything to avoid taking seriously what our bishops say, eh?
 
I am not sure the good Bishops’ article from 2018 addresses what is called “Systemic Racism” or use that exact term. Sure it addresses racism which we know is wrong.

Some talk about the police. We are told to respect them too.
 
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blackforest said:
Do you consider Planned Parenthood an example of systemic racism?
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If PP were an example of systemic racism, which I have not made up my mind about, then I would have to say it is systemic racism in PP, not a national systemic racism.
 
They address it in Open Wide Our Hearts

“Racism can often be found in our hearts—in many cases placed there unwillingly or unknowingly by our upbringing and culture. As such, it can lead to thoughts and actions that we do not even see as racist, but nonetheless flow from the same prejudicial root. Consciously or subconsciously, this attitude of superiority can be seen in how certain groups of people are vilified, called criminals, or are perceived as being unable to contribute to society, even unworthy of its benefits. Racism can also be institutional, when practices or traditions are upheld that treat certain groups of people unjustly. The cumulative effects of personal sins of racism have led to social structures of injustice and violence that makes us all accomplices in racism.”

 
Planned receives federal welfare, spends sizable amounts of lobbying money, and has over 600 clinics located within or close minority-dominated neighborhoods? Don’t forget all of its support from powerful people in Congress and Hollywood. If you conceded with other pro-lifers to its racist history and practices, remember that the organization is pretty tightly interwoven into our national fabric.
 
“Systemic Racism” as defined may be more exact, Duke Professor Bonilla-Silva even touches on that.

What is systemic racism?​

Systemic racism, which refers to the systems in place that perpetuate racial injustice, has three primary components to its definition, says Bonilla-Silva.

First, it’s historically specific, meaning the systems maintaining racial injustice change over time (and sometimes based on location).

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Second, systemic racism is a distinctly structural phenomenon, meaning the practices and behaviors that perpetuate racism within a system are baked into the system itself. This also means that regardless of intention, most people participate in some way with the systems that are in place, Bonilla-Silva notes.
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mashable.com

What you need to know about systemic racism

"You don't need to wear a police uniform to enforce racialized order."
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Sure, you can call what the Bishops were writing about as racism, maybe systemic racism. It’s a bit unclear. There is a more precise definition.

I in no way, enable Planned Parenthood, I don’t vote for politicians who support Planned Parenthood, since it is spread out around the country and the government funds it some, I would think they would be an example. Senator Tina Smith of Minnesota use to be a Planned Parenthood director. So, if one backed her, maybe they helped enable systemic racism.

I won’t cite more of the article, I will summarize, they state that healthcare in the pandemic may illustrate “systemic racism”.

The OP here, is dealing with justice more. Yes, I don’t think many would deny that there seems to be an inborn prejudice in law and order. I am not even positive about that prison reform bill that was signed but that would seem to address the problem.
 
Aren’t you arguing on another thread that just because a protester has a homemade sign saying Black Lives Matter and is wearing a BLM.com t-shirt doesn’t mean they are signing on to all the Marxist stuff on the BLM.com website?
 
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What on earth . . . (???)

I’m not arguing that everybody showing up at a pro-choice demonstration or calling themselves pro-choice is an employee, member, and/or financial supporter of PP. (It turns out that it has its pro-choice critics. Planned Parenthood Is Accused of Mistreating Pregnant Employees - The New York Times ) That would be analogous to people who deliberately equivocate between the BLM movement and the BLM organization.

My post references people who write big checks to Planned Parenthood, attend Planned Parenthood galas and fundraisers, pass laws to fund specifically Planned Parenthood, work in one of 600+ clinics with Planned Parenthood’s name prominently displayed . . . etc.

That’s different. You see the difference, right?
 
blackforest said:
That’s different. You see the difference, right?
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You are so right! It is not at all like the BLM situation!

It is much more like Catholics who vote for, support, advocate for, and donate big bucks to the Democratic Party despite their extreme advocacy for keeping abortion legal!
 
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