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Sir_Knight
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And our faith teaches that we can not do wrong even if it is for a good cause. That’s in the CCC – the exact passage was referenced earlier in this thread.
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He_Man
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Notice I never said whether or not I thought it was a sin.
Would I take it down? Yep, without thinking.
Is it a sin? Maybe, but don’t much care.
Would I take it down? Yep, without thinking.
Is it a sin? Maybe, but don’t much care.
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He_Man
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And you have jumped the gun and stated this is in fact for certain wrong.
The debate is addressing whether or not this is worng; that’s the point.
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Sir_Knight
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Hopefully no longer wearing badges.
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He_Man
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I was referencing the posters who defended the cops, but in this case, we agree Sir Knight.
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Sir_Knight
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How can taking something that doesn’t belong to you be right? You do not own it, you can not take it. Taking it is wrong.
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He_Man
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The same way letting the destruction of God’s image and the loss of souls continue is okay?
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Sir_Knight
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I don’t follow but that’s okay. At least we agree on something. Appears we’re making progress
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He_Man
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I asked “where were they” in reference to the posters who defended the cops previously, and I believe you thought I was asking “where are the cops?”I don’t follow but that’s okay. At least we agree on something. Appears we’re making progress
But I’ll take the agreement.
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Sir_Knight
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Despite that fact that EVERY sin is greatly offensive to God, you wouldn’t care if your action was a sin?
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blacktiger057
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Oh, so now it’s a Christian with an “my opinion matters more than Muslims” as well as a “poor me” attitude.You’re kidding, right? We’ve been taking and taking and taking these insults for years - the Lord’s Prayer is banned because it’s a Christian prayer; the Ten Commandments are removed from court houses because they come from the Christian God; the word “Christmas” is banned because it contains the name “Christ”; Christian children and young people can’t study the Bible, or discuss religion, or wear crosses in public because others will be offended (but nobody is offended by Jews wearing yarmulkas, or by Muslims stopping to kneel on their prayer rugs and pray every three hours) - every time I turn around there’s a “science special” on that speculates in serious tones about how something about my faith probably isn’t really true (although there’s no evidence either way) - and now they have this movie and these books out that portray the Magisterium of the Catholic Church as child murderers or whatever, and again, we’re just supposed to smile and take it.
If Muslims or Jews get mad, everyone falls all over themselves making it right, but when we get mad, we’re the intolerant ones? Huh-uh.
I’m glad that kid took the posters down at his school. It’s a step in the right direction.
First, there will always be people to annoy you and science to attempt to disprove you, no matter what faith you are. Everyone of all faiths have to deal with this.
And you have the freedom to wear whatever you want, from crosses to pentagrams. Personally, you don’t have it bad at all in this area. If someone sees someone wearing a cross, no one bats an eye. But if it’s a pentagram, it’s totally differnt and they think you are a Satanist.
Well, yeah, the 10 Com. aren’t in courthouses because we have religious freedom. We have the right, at least here in the USA, to believe whatever we like. The first com. is contradictory to this, so it makes sense that your religious laws are not enforced by the government.
Why can’t children study the Bible? If they are Christian, then they usually have one somewhere…
. Again, you have life better here than me…I’m not allowed to read what my faith says.I didn’t make any fuss over the Passion of Christ, saying “Oh, this is such an insult to my religion! It’s anti-Wiccan, it doesn’t have what I believe in it!” I persoanlly just didn’t watch it. But I didn’t go vandalizing the signs all over my school about it. I didn’t make protests and try to get it banned, did I? Please, get over it.
And the Lord’s prayer is only banned from school because so are Muslim and Jewish and pagan prayers. It’s not like society is discriminating its laws against all Christians. ALL religions have to deal with it, too.
In society, pagans have it a lot worse than Christians do, seeing as like 70% or more of the population in the USA are Christian. People would insult me on a daily basis if they knew my faith. Christians have it easy. Oh, and sorry to sound so harsh, but it’s when Christians sound like you do that other religions start criticizing them. You are makingyour faith look bad. Instead, why can’t you be peaceable, live and let live? So stop fussing! Learn to accept other’s opinions. Deal with it!
And Jesus would forgive all the insults, not vandalizing every thing that he thought was a tiny bit anti-Christian or did not hold the Christian beliefs.
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Sir_Knight
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Okay, I don’t follow this either.
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Sir_Knight
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Thank you.
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kage_ar
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Will it be okay if your son heads over to the metro-plex and stands by the box office, then, when he sees someone buy a ticket for The Golden Compass, he punches them straight in the nose. That okay? Maybe he could just mug them in the parking lot, if they have no wallet - they cannot see that movie.
In 2008, The Golden Compass will be released on DVD.
If your son decides to go to the local Wal Mart and destroy the DVDs on the shelf, you would also commend him for this action?
Barnes and Noble bookstore has lots of the His Dark Materials books on the shelf right now, is it okay to break into the store and destroy those books?
How about breaking into the factory that prints the book and destroying the printing press? All are justified?
In 2008, The Golden Compass will be released on DVD.
If your son decides to go to the local Wal Mart and destroy the DVDs on the shelf, you would also commend him for this action?
Barnes and Noble bookstore has lots of the His Dark Materials books on the shelf right now, is it okay to break into the store and destroy those books?
How about breaking into the factory that prints the book and destroying the printing press? All are justified?
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blacktiger057
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Stop living in the past. 50 years ago you could easily get away with fake ID’s and underage drinking as well. Times change.
It really makes me sick that some Christians here would just vandalize/break the law/steal somethign just because they don’t agree with it. Really, as Christians you form the opinion of what your faith is to other people. Acting in such a way really brings at least my opinion down many notches.
You are almost acting the way some Muslim terrorists do, except this isn’t nearly as serious. But still, you think just because you disagree with something it gives you the right to destroy it!
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He_Man
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My point is:
Which is the greater sin? Letting pornography be shown in public or propaganda that slanders God and attempt to turn people away from him, or removing that material even though it doesn’t belong to you?
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I did not commend him for his actions. I think it is unfortunate. But I don’t comdemn his actions yet. Tim
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He_Man
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Let’s keep perspective. Tearing down posters is not the same as cutting off people’s heads with blunt sickles.Stop living in the past. 50 years ago you could easily get away with fake ID’s and underage drinking as well. Times change.
It really makes me sick that some Christians here would just vandalize/break the law/steal somethign just because they don’t agree with it. Really, as Christians you form the opinion of what your faith is to other people. Acting in such a way really brings at least my opinion down many notches.
You are almost acting the way some Muslim terrorists do, except this isn’t nearly as serious. But still, you think just because you disagree with something it gives you the right to destroy it!
And newsflash: EVERYONE breaks laws they don’t agree with. Did you speed today? Lawbreaker. Jaywalk? Lawbreaker. Sodomy with your wife in certain counties throughout the US? Lawbreaker.
At least some of us will admit when we are doing something that is technically illegal.
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jmcrae
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I saw the Passion of the Christ; there was nothing in it specifically attacking Wiccans, or saying anything about them that isn’t actually true.
The Golden Compass portrays the Magisterium as a bunch of baby-eating witches. (Notice that I am referring to the kind of witches that eat babies; not all witches.
)There is a difference between promoting the beliefs of one’s own religion (as The Passion of the Christ does) and attacking someone else’s religion.
Really? Is that why He insulted the Pharisees (those who were working against Him) at every turn, and tore down the market-place in the Temple?And Jesus would forgive all the insults, not vandalizing every thing that he thought was a tiny bit anti-Christian or did not hold the Christian beliefs.
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