Taking questions from Sabbatarians...

[Bible_Light]

In Ex.31 we see
13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

1)The Sabbath here is a sign that it is the Lord that sanctifies them (and not man).

2)It is also a PERPETUAL COVENANT. Let me ask you how long of a time does perpetual imply?

3)This passage says that “the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath” Well, who are the children of Israel?

Jer.31
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

This says that the new covenant is made with the house of Israel, and with the house of Juda. Whoa, wouldn’t that mean the Jews?

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

This says that the new covenant would not be made as it was with the father who broke the covenant

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

But that God’s law would be placed in their inward parts and written on there hearts. Now I’m thinking that this law (THE TEN COMMANDMENT) included the fourth commandment.

But then we still have the idea of God making this covenant with the Jews. Consider this.

Rom.9
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

The new covenant is made with SPIRITUAL ISRAEL and the Sabbath is still a sign that it is God that sanctifies them (and not man).

Isaiah66

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

And this Sabbath which is a sign of God’s people will be kept down through the ages of eternity (perpetual)

BL

 

[Adonai_saves]

“Please understand my way of thinking comes from a very dodgy “Catholic” upbringing and has essentially forced me to read my bible myself and be guided by that and a lot of prayer (not always on a Sunday )”

*I fully understand, we are all on a journey. I myself was a, for lack of a better word, a dead beat Catholic for many years. A good SDA friend of my introduced me to the SDA theology and I was challenged on my Catholic faith with the Sabbath issue. I had to learn and read much knowing full well that I may have to leave the Catholic Church to follow Jesus. After much research and praying I discovered that the Church is correct, the Sabbath is Saturday and Sunday is the day that we should and aught to come together as a community.

This whole topic consumed me for many years, to the point that I wrote a -]book/-] meditation. I don’t want to post it on the forums because I don’t want to use the forums as a way to promote the book.

The reason I started this thread is because I find myself hearing Catholics say things that are not right and unfortunately they are picking this up from many Protestants. A few months back, as we just got out of Mass and were walking the the coffee and donuts there two men behind me and one says to the other “yeah, that is when the Church moved the Sabbath to Sunday”. I just cringed, that is not what the Church teaches…never has.

Joao

Sabbath is the English word for the Hebrew word Shabbat.
The Forth Commandment connects Shabbat with the fact that G-d rested after six days of creation. Genesis (B’resheet) 2:1-3 makes it a day of equality in which all, high and low alike, are entitled to rest, and sets it aside as a day which is holy, on which G-d is to be honored.

Be Blessed…

 

[Fab82]

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

BL

Do you keep new moon? I have a SDA friend who keeps telling me I should be keeping the 7th day Sabbath but he can’t explain why he do not keep the new moon. He also can’t explain why they go outside their homes on the Sabbath. I heard in some parts of the world Jews get their cars stoned if they are caught driving. I will try to find the audio I heard this from and post it (if that is allowed).

Since I’m posting anyway I will like to answer the question on what is the new covenant is since no one has posted any other answers. Is it the Eucharist?

Luke 22:20 Similary also, he took the chalice, after ha had eaten the meal, saying:This chalice is the new covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you.

 

[Bible_Light]

It’s interesting to me that I posted this rather lengthy post which absolutely proves that God’s Sabbath is to be kept by new testament SPIRTUAL JEWS (Christians) and the only thing you come back with is something that you don’t understand.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

BL

Do you keep new moon?

How do you propose I (we) do that fab? If you read the passage that you posted

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

It says that “it will come to pass”. This means that it has not come about yet. It also says that “all flesh” will come to worship the Lord on the Sabbath and the new moon. This is not happening now is it fab? The answer is in verse 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

All flesh will come to worship the Lord from month to month and from Sabbath to Sabbath in the “NEW EARTH” What does it mean to worship from one new moon to another? The answer is found in Rev 22

Revelation 22
22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
23 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

We shall be feasting on the tree of life, obviously we cannot do that now.

I have a SDA friend who keeps telling me I should be keeping the 7th day Sabbath but he can’t explain why he do not keep the new moon.

Now you know that that cannot happen until we are with Christ in the new Jerusalem.

He also can’t explain why they go outside their homes on the Sabbath. I heard in some parts of the world Jews get their cars stoned if they are caught driving. I will try to find the audio I heard this from and post it (if that is allowed).

The bible doesn’t tell us that we cannot go outside our houses on the Sabbath.

BL

 

[johnnyjones]

The sabbath was never abolished. It is one of the ten commandments. The spirit and meaning are the same to “keep the rest day holy” but the day in which that rest was to take place has changed to the first day of the week because Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and IS our rest. Sunday replaces the Saturday sabbath.

CCC2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:107

 

[Bible_Light]

The sabbath was never abolished. It is one of the ten commandments. The spirit and meaning are the same to “keep the rest day holy” but the day in which that rest was to take place has changed to the first day of the week because Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and IS our rest. Sunday replaces the Saturday sabbath.

CCC2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:107

God spoke the Ten Commandments with His own mouth and wrote them in stone to signify their permanence, man does not have the authority to change the law of God.

 

[johnnyjones]

God spoke the Ten Commandments with His own mouth and wrote them in stone to signify their permanence, man does not have the authority to change the law of God.

Man changed nothing. Jesus is God and quite capable of making change. The Son Of Man is Lord of the sabbath.

Yes written in stone , “Remember to keep holy the sabbath (rest day).” The Jews rested on the seventh day because God rested on the seventh day and blessed it. The Saturday sabbath was a covenant between God and the people of Israel. The sabbath was an indicator of the true rest that was to come, and Jesus is that true rest. The disciples gathered on the first day of the week (Sunday), not Saturday.

 

[Bible_Light]

Man changed nothing. Jesus is God and quite capable of making change. The Son Of Man is Lord of the sabbath.

Yes written in stone , “Remember to keep holy the sabbath (rest day).” The Jews rested on the seventh day because God rested on the seventh day and blessed it. The Saturday sabbath was a covenant between God and the people of Israel. The sabbath was an indicator of the true rest that was to come, and Jesus is that true rest.

So are you saying that Jesus changed the day. If so where do you find that change?

The disciples gathered on the first day of the week (Sunday), not Saturday.

No they didn’t.

Luke 23
52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke 24

24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

They kept the day between the preperation day (Friday) and the first day (Sunday) and that day was the same day that God told His people, the Jews, to keep. SATURDAY!!!

 

[johnnyjones]

So are you saying that Jesus changed the day. If so where do you find that change?

No they didn’t.

Luke 23
52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke 24

24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

They kept the day between the preperation day (Friday) and the first day (Sunday) and that day was the same day that God told His people, the Jews, to keep. SATURDAY!!!

What is your rest, Saturday or Jesus?

, The Epistles are part of the bible and detail events** after the resurrection.** “On the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK we came together to break bread.” Acts 20:7

The seventh day sabbath was a covenant between God and the people of Israel.
“The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant.” Exodus 21:16
“It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heaven and earth and on the seventh day He abstained from work and rested.” Exodus 21:17

Non of the other ten commandments are given this kind of separate detail because the Sabbath would be fulfilled in the rest of Jesus.

 

[MartinJordan]

What is your rest, Saturday or Jesus?

, The Epistles are part of the bible and detail events** after the resurrection.** “On the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK we came together to break bread.” Acts 20:7

The seventh day sabbath was a covenant between God and the people of Israel.
“The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant.” Exodus 21:16
“It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heaven and earth and on the seventh day He abstained from work and rested.” Exodus 21:17

Non of the other ten commandments are given this kind of separate detail because the Sabbath would be fulfilled in the rest of Jesus.

Amen

MJ

 

[Fab82]

It’s interesting to me that I posted this rather lengthy post which absolutely proves that God’s Sabbath is to be kept by new testament SPIRTUAL JEWS (Christians) and the only thing you come back with is something that you don’t understand.

How do you propose I (we) do that fab? If you read the passage that you posted

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

It says that “it will come to pass”. This means that it has not come about yet. It also says that “all flesh” will come to worship the Lord on the Sabbath and the new moon. This is not happening now is it fab? The answer is in verse 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

All flesh will come to worship the Lord from month to month and from Sabbath to Sabbath in the “NEW EARTH” What does it mean to worship from one new moon to another? The answer is found in Rev 22

Revelation 22
22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
23 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

We shall be feasting on the tree of life, obviously we cannot do that now.

Now you know that that cannot happen until we are with Christ in the new Jerusalem.

The bible doesn’t tell us that we cannot go outside our houses on the Sabbath.

BL/QUOT

I asked the questions that I wanted to know answers to. I haven’t been able to have someone I know personally to explain this to me so since you posted the Scripture, I thought could ask you, but I see your rudeness and I won’t ask you anything else. What I said about not going outside your home on the Sabbath came from the audio I had listened to last week, which I had mentioned to you. Not everyone on this site is looking to challenge you. In the future I will just avoid asking you questions. But thanks for the response you did leave.

If you look at my profile you will see I have been on here trying to learn about SDA’s and Sabbath was the biggest issue for me and I’m still trying to fully understand it from a Sabbath keepers viewpoint.

Sorry if you were annoyed by my questions.

 

[Lochias]

God spoke the Ten Commandments with His own mouth and wrote them in stone to signify their permanence, man does not have the authority to change the law of God.

Stone isn’t permanent. Jesus wrote the new Covenant on our very hearts. What was physically binding for the Israelites has been moved into the spiritual with the coming of the new kingdom on Earth…unless you’re telling me that you still sacrifice animals, too, the way the Israelites did under the old covenant?

 

[Bible_Light]

What is your rest, Saturday or Jesus?

This is about the Sabbath day of the fourth commandment of God. Jesus is not a day. What it’s really about is who gets to set the day God or man. The fourth commandment says that the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Ex.31:13 says **“Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.” Mark 2:28 says " And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:" the Sabbath was made for man, all of mankind, not just the Jews.

, The Epistles are part of the bible and detail events** after the resurrection.** “On the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK we came together to break bread.” Acts 20:7

The seventh day sabbath was a covenant between God and the people of Israel.
“The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant.” Exodus 21:16
“It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heaven and earth and on the seventh day He abstained from work and rested.” Exodus 21:17

Non of the other ten commandments are given this kind of separate detail because the Sabbath would be fulfilled in the rest of Jesus.**

Ya, you need to go back and read my first post.

 

[Bible_Light]

Stone isn’t permanent. Jesus wrote the new Covenant on our very hearts. What was physically binding for the Israelites has been moved into the spiritual with the coming of the new kingdom on Earth…unless you’re telling me that you still sacrifice animals, too, the way the Israelites did under the old covenant?

So are you saying the ten commandments have been done away with?

James 2
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

 

[johnnyjones]

This is about the Sabbath day of the fourth commandment of God. Jesus is not a day. What it’s really about is who gets to set the day God or man. The fourth commandment says that the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Ex.31:13 says **“Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.” Mark 2:28 says " And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:" the Sabbath was made for man, all of mankind, not just the Jews.

Ya, you need to go back and read my first post.**
Sabbath means rest. Jesus is of course not a day but the fulfillment of rest. “Come to me and I will give you rest” Jesus said. Jesus was about change, His whole ministry represented change. You ask, “show me where it was changed?”. From the OT to the NT Jesus changed so many things we could write page upon page about it.

The NT is a “change” book, that is why it is called the New Covenant. If the Son Of Man is Lord of the sabbath, that should tell you something. The ten commandments were not “done away with”’. There is still a sabbath day (Sunday) and we are to keep it holy, and break bread as the apostles did on that day which you skipped over.

The sabbath is written on our hearts but the seventh day portion was an OLD covenant between God and the people of Israel which you were shown clearly from Exodus. You seem to disregard this. Now we keep holy the rest day, the Lords day because of his resurrection. We can rest in Jesus everyday but we keep the spirit of the law with the sabbath on the first day of the week. You say the sabbath was made for everyone, and your right, but how do you disregard the seventh day being a covenant between God an the people of Israel? Not everyone, with the seventh day, because the sabbath was pointing to the ultimate rest, Jesus.

Before Jesus, God made a way to rest, when Jesus arrived on earth He became our true rest and said so.

 

[johnnyjones]

Bible Light;9898339:

It’s interesting to me that I posted this rather lengthy post which absolutely proves that God’s Sabbath is to be kept by new testament SPIRTUAL JEWS (Christians) and the only thing you come back with is something that you don’t understand.

How do you propose I (we) do that fab? If you read the passage that you posted

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

It says that "it will come to pass

". This means that it has not come about yet. It also says that “all flesh” will come to worship the Lord on the Sabbath and the new moon. This is not happening now is it fab? The answer is in verse 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

All flesh will come to worship the Lord from month to month and from Sabbath to Sabbath in the “NEW EARTH” What does it mean to worship from one new moon to another? The answer is found in Rev 22

Revelation 22
22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
23 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

We shall be feasting on the tree of life, obviously we cannot do that now.

Now you know that that cannot happen until we are with Christ in the new Jerusalem.

The bible doesn’t tell us that we cannot go outside our houses on the Sabbath.

BL[/QUOT

I asked the questions that I wanted to know answers to. I haven’t been able to have someone I know personally to explain this to me so since you posted the Scripture, I thought could ask you, but I see your rudeness and I won’t ask you anything else. What I said about not going outside your home on the Sabbath came from the audio I had listened to last week, which I had mentioned to you. Not everyone on this site is looking to challenge you. In the future I will just avoid asking you questions. But thanks for the response you did leave.

If you look at my profile you will see I have been on here trying to learn about SDA’s and Sabbath was the biggest issue for me and I’m still trying to fully understand it from a Sabbath keepers viewpoint.

Sorry if you were annoyed by my questions.

Much of SDAs bible teachings were and are filtered through the teachings of Ellen White who was steeped in strange doctrines. Surprisingly many Protestants are backing a Saturday Sabbath which contradicts scripture. biblebelievers.com/SDA/SDA1.html#1-a
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[Bible_Light]

Bible Light;9898339:

I asked the questions that I wanted to know answers to. I haven’t been able to have someone I know personally to explain this to me so since you posted the Scripture, I thought could ask you, but I see your rudeness and I won’t ask you anything else.

Sorry Fab looking back over that post I did come off as rather arrogant and smug. I will try to rein it in in the future.

What I said about not going outside your home on the Sabbath came from the audio I had listened to last week, which I had mentioned to you. Not everyone on this site is looking to challenge you. In the future I will just avoid asking you questions. But thanks for the response you did leave.

It’s always best to take your instructions from the word of God, instead of what people say.

If you look at my profile you will see I have been on here trying to learn about SDA’s and Sabbath was the biggest issue for me and I’m still trying to fully understand it from a Sabbath keepers viewpoint.

Sorry if you were annoyed by my questions.

I wasn’t annoyed by your questions, again I must apologize for my abruptness. Hope this will not preclude futher discussion.

 

[Bible_Light]

Stone isn’t permanent. Jesus wrote the new Covenant on our very hearts. What was physically binding for the Israelites has been moved into the spiritual with the coming of the new kingdom on Earth

I don’t know what you mean by “physically binding” Are you saying the Ten Commandments are no longer “physically binding” on God’s people?

…unless you’re telling me that you still sacrifice animals, too, the way the Israelites did under the old covenant?

The sacraficial system with it’s prophetic feasts has been fullfilled in the cross.
Heb.10
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 

[torch621]

It amazes me that people still believe in this particular heresy, Sabbatarianism.

I’m oft reminded of the Judaizer heresy when I hear SDA and other’s insist on keeping the Jewish Sabbath.

 

[Bible_Light]

Sabbath means rest. Jesus is of course not a day but the fulfillment of rest. “Come to me and I will give you rest” Jesus said. Jesus was about change, His whole ministry represented change. You ask, “show me where it was changed?”. From the OT to the NT Jesus changed so many things we could write page upon page about it.

You keep saying that so many things were changed, but this one specific thing that I ask
“show me where it was changed?”. You don’t seem willing or able to do. Could it be that it has not been changed?

Matt.5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The NT is a “change” book, that is why it is called the New Covenant. If the Son Of Man is Lord of the sabbath, that should tell you something.

Yes, it tells me that the seventh day Sabbath of the ten commandments is the Lord’s day.

The ten commandments were not “done away with”’. There is still a sabbath day (Sunday) and we are to keep it holy, and break bread as the apostles did on that day which you skipped over.

So you are saying that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. Again I ask you to show me where this occurs? Are you saying that a commandment of God which was spoken by the mouth of God and written by His own finger on stone to signify it’s permanence has been changed because Luke says the disciples came together to eat (break bread)?

The sabbath is written on our hearts but the seventh day portion was an OLD covenant between God and the people of Israel which you were shown clearly from Exodus. You seem to disregard this.

So you’re saying here that only part of the fourth commandment has been changed and that this is clear in Exodus? I’m sorry it’s not so clear to me. Could you explain it?

Now we keep holy the rest day, the Lords day because of his resurrection.

The Sabbath is the Lord’s day.
Mark2
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

We can rest in Jesus everyday but we keep the spirit of the law with the sabbath on the first day of the week. You say the sabbath was made for everyone, and your right, but how do you disregard the seventh day being a covenant between God an the people of Israel? Not everyone, with the seventh day, because the sabbath was pointing to the ultimate rest, Jesus.

Before Jesus, God made a way to rest, when Jesus arrived on earth He became our true rest and said so.

I think I already answered this, but here it is again.

Rom.9
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

The new covenant is made with SPIRITUAL ISRAEL and the Sabbath is still a sign that it is God that sanctifies them (and not man).