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Scott_Lafrance
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Some people lack the capacity to articulate a point and exist simply for the purpose of bein polemicists.What is it with you and the Tea Partiers? Just because they hold a different view doesn’t mean they are “ignoring facts” and having difficulty “digesting” history. They may very well know history and have a different conclusion based on the facts.
Do you really think it would be a good idea for the economy to raise taxes on the wealthy and increase corporate taxes at this time? Seriously? As you can see in my signature, even Obama doesn’t agree with that…or at least he didn’t.
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jomoco
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Yes I do.What is it with you and the Tea Partiers? Just because they hold a different view doesn’t mean they are “ignoring facts” and having difficulty “digesting” history. They may very well know history and have a different conclusion based on the facts.
Do you really think it would be a good idea for the economy to raise taxes on the wealthy and increase corporate taxes at this time? Seriously? As you can see in my signature, even Obama doesn’t agree with that…or at least he didn’t.
And any American corp that manufactures anything in these communist hell holes and dictatorships would be barred from the American market place period.
If GE wants to move their operations to china or saudi arabia, that’s fine and dandy with me.
It’s high time Uncle Sam kicked some corporate butts into line.
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Ridgerunner
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If we didn’t run the deficits we do, none of that would be necessary.
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rlg94086
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Well, I’m glad your extreme, minority view won’t make it into a position of power.
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jomoco
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Minority view friend?
politicususa.com/en/polls-taxes-deficit
I kinda doubt bruce bartlett embraces tea party policies any more than the rest of America.
Just who is the minority party of extreme views my friend?
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rlg94086
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Check out the thread I submitted today regarding Obama’s latest numbers. 56% of the population favor a smaller government with less services. I don’t know who Bruce Bartlett is, but I’ll check out your link when I’m at my computer.
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Darryl1958
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The social democratic position of the Democratic party is not radical. It is just very European.
And getting spending under control as the Tea party movement advocates is not radical either. It is very much in line with the value system of many Americans.
It is just the usual leftist fear-mongering that pretends that it is radical.
As for Obama, it is still an open question if he is trying to destroy the economy on purpose, of if he is just not very good at what he does.
And getting spending under control as the Tea party movement advocates is not radical either. It is very much in line with the value system of many Americans.
It is just the usual leftist fear-mongering that pretends that it is radical.
As for Obama, it is still an open question if he is trying to destroy the economy on purpose, of if he is just not very good at what he does.
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rlg94086
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“There are a few qualifiers that come in to play on this issue. Americans will always support tax increases as long as they are on someone else. Since the vast majority of Americans aren’t millionaires, it isn’t a big surprise that so many citizens favor additional taxes on them.”
Yep…that’s why I don’t find the poll result surprising or reasonable.
“Secondly, the American people are realistic. They tend to support a mixture of spending cuts and tax increases. This is a matter of common sense to most people. If you are in debt, you aren’t going to get out of debt by only spending less. At some point, you have to earn more money in order to pay your bills.”
As, someone else pointed out, it’s simplistic to equate home finances to our government’s economy. The best way to increase revenue is to grow the economy…not raise taxes.
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CMatt25
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Yes they are. In cases record profits.
No one ever knows for certain what taxes are going to be. Or energy costs. Or what interest rates are going to be.
So this is all a smokecreen. And I LOL when I read such things like give the wealthy even more tax cuts and then they will spend on job creation. I wonder how much more profit corporations need before they will start creating jobs.
If we keep caving to the wealthy “job creators” on taxes, the road we may find ourselves on permanently is that they will only keep holding out for more and more tax cuts to sit on or to spend on their own lifestyles. Not on the job creation needed.
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SamH
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You think WW2 was a successful demonstration of raising taxes and heavily regulating industries?
The national debt increased over 5X during WW2, how was raising taxes a success in that regard?
US industry switched to a war time footing with little (name removed by moderator)ut from the government. No major industry or even a major company came under the government heel.
Current debt crisis has little to do with the war in Iraq or Afghanistan. As a % of government spending or even the economy defense spending is less than it was in the 1950s, 1960s or even the 1970s.
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Ridgerunner
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Who said anything about tax CUTS? Certainly, I didn’t. I’m talking about concerns of increases here. By the way, I think next year (probably beginning this fall, actually) you will see very significant reductions in corporate profits. They have already decreased, by the way, and by a lot, since 2007, or even 2008, if you look at the total tax take from them compared to now.
If you look up individual large corporations financials, you will see that the profit margins for most are not all that good. But regardless, small businesses are perhaps the most afraid of this administration, because, unlike the giants, they can’t “pay to play”.
Reducing corporate taxes is not where this country is headed anyway.
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jomoco
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- You’ve got to be jpking, right?
- Can you provide any documentation of your assertions?
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CMatt25
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Who? Mitt Romney as well as many others in the Republican Party, the party supported by the vast majority of members of this forum.
bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-06/romney-set-to-outline-job-plan-ahead-of-obama-speech-to-congress.html
examiner.com/economic-policy-in-national/republican-candidates-proposed-tax-cuts-would-bankrupt-u-s
thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/16/151008/gop-state-corporate-tax-cuts/
But it’s good to know this is not the direction the country will take.
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jomoco
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Have you ever truly studied WW2 my friend?
I believe 1941 saw the Office of Price Administration created or resurrected from WW1.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Price_Administration
It never ceases to amaze me how very little American history both our citizens and politicians have under their belts(hats).
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SamH
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Yes I can, how about you?
treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm
Ford, GM, Chrysler, IBM, Studebaker were all operated privately, actually I can not think of a single industry or factory the government took control of. They threatened to “seize” control of Ford’s Willow Run plant that built B24s due to the length of time it took to switch from cars to planes but it never happened.
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rlg94086
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You forgot Bill Clinton… taxfoundation.org/blog/show/27430.html
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SamH
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And the measured success of that office?
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jomoco
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That we speak english, rather than german in this country as our primary language.
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