Taylor Marshall Asks Pope Francis whether he, Pope Francis, is a Heretic!

[Aquinas11]

much bigger problems than a ‘supposed’ idol in a minute of an over one hour long video of a ceremony in the Vatican gardens

The idol was in a Catholic Church not merely in Vatican Gardens

 

[Emeraldlady]

Emeraldlady:

Now you are toxic and anti Catholic to the core.

Citing Scripture and 10 Commandments is now “toxic and anti Catholic to the core”

Interpreting Church teaching as heretical is toxic and anti Catholic to the core. It is in the course of 50 years an unfamiliar position to me.

 

[aroosi]

In the church it was part of a display about the Amazon synod, it was not there as something to be venerated. In other pictures there was a canoe too, obviously nobody would think that the canoe is an idol even if usually canoes are not displayed in Catholic churches. I see ‘the idol’ and the canoe as part of a cultural display, no intent of making them objects of veneration. Imagine if there was a US synod with a display with the statue of liberty and an airplane; nobody would confuse using these objects as symbols of a certain reality with making them idols.

 

[Fauken]

I see ‘the idol’ and the canoe as part of a cultural display, no intent of making them objects of veneration.

Pope Francis- “I would like to say a word about the pachamama statues that were removed from the Church at Traspontina, which were there without idolatrous intentions and were thrown into the Tiber”.

Whatever that was, it wasn’t a ‘stunt’

A few days ago men removed some female figurines (centerpieces for several weird ceremonies in Rome the last few weeks) from a church and tossed them into the Tiber River. Vatican spokesman Paolo R…

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" Canon 1210, addressing the dignity of Catholic holy places in general, states: “Only those things which serve the exercise or promotion of worship, piety, or religion are permitted in a sacred place; anything not consonant with the holiness of the place is forbidden…” And Canon 1220 § 1, addressing churches specifically, states: “All those responsible are to take care that in churches such cleanliness and beauty are preserved as befit a house of God and that whatever is inappropriate to the holiness of the place is excluded.”"

“These canons, in my view, do not simply preclude the placement of obviously demonic or pagan artifacts in our churches, but rather, require those in charge of sacred places to set up objects that are positively conducive to Christian prayer and worship. If, as the Congregation for Divine worship stated in 1987(*), the mere fact that that some music is admittedly beautiful does not justify its performance in churches, then all the more so should church authorities be on guard against setting up objects widely and reasonably seen as representing pagan deities in Catholic sacred spaces. I suggest (and more to the point, the Code of Canon Law understands in, say, Canon 214), that the faithful have the right to trust that what they see in Catholic sacred places is actually there in service to the sacred and is not simply a gesture toward some form of political correctness or the latest cause du jour , to say nothing of it possibly being simply evil. Ignoring concerns about the proper use of sacred space with a shrug and a ‘we don’t really know what it is’ is to ignore the positive duties that Church leadership owes to the faithful.”

 

[Emeraldlady]

Pope Francis- “I would like to say a word about the pachamama statues that were removed from the Church at Traspontina, which were there without idolatrous intentions and were thrown into the Tiber”.

 

[gracepoole]

In the church it was part of a display about the Amazon synod, it was not there as something to be venerated. In other pictures there was a canoe too, obviously nobody would think that the canoe is an idol even if usually canoes are not displayed in Catholic churches. I see ‘the idol’ and the canoe as part of a cultural display, no intent of making them objects of veneration. Imagine if there was a US synod with a display with the statue of liberty and an airplane; nobody would confuse using these objects as symbols of a certain reality with making them idols.

Though no one would be prostrating themselves in front of the Statue of Liberty, of course.