Tea party wins in northeastern primaries could bode well for Democrats

[CMatt25]

if the GOP cannot gain control… then I hope the Democrats keep control and keep pushing entitlements and deficit spending until there is no more United States of America. Then we can push the reset button and get a government that actually is “of the people, by the people, and for the people”, instead of “of the lobbyists, by special interests, and for my bank account”.

Or if they can, then the public will be so fed up with Tea Partiers with an “R” after their names, they will flock back to the Dems. And here’s one way to help the deficit. End the Bush tax cuts for only the wealthiest 3 %. If you have income over a quarter million dollars your taxes will go up. Everyone else, as in the rest of us 97% of the people, ours won’t. But send only the top 3% back to the Clinton era rates. The economy wasn’t so bad then. And tax cuts for the wealthy haven’t spurred all that many jobs in recent yrs anyway. Tax cuts for the wealthy have been a complete and colossal failure. Could have saved a billion plus per wk over 8 yrs too by not fighting 2 unpaid for wars. Peace.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

Oh my goodness! I’m not a Tea partier, but I just dont understand why they are hated so much? For you to say this, you must personally know a lot of them?? Its really weird, to me.

I was raised as an American, respecting other Americans, and their right to vote as they choose, for whichever reason it is that they choose…even if it is petty.

Do you agree with a woman’s right to choose?

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

Oh my goodness! I’m not a Tea partier, but I just dont understand why they are hated so much? For you to say this, you must personally know a lot of them?? Its really weird, to me.

I was raised as an American, respecting other Americans, and their right to vote as they choose, for whichever reason it is that they choose…even if it is petty.

The teaparty is not hated. They started out as a Republican memo to disrupt health care debates. They are corporately sponsored. They are not grass roots. Most people know this is who they are. the Republicans have produced a Frankenstein. Now they have to turn to the villagers.

 

[CMatt25]

ALL the tea party backed canidates for Senate are strongly pro-life.

Only if you define “pro-life” as a single issue and ignore all those other matters that matter to the lives of people. You know things like Social Security, Medicare, health care**… **

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

The teaparty is not hated. They started out as a Republican memo to disrupt health care debates. They are corporately sponsored. They are not grass roots. Most people know this is who they are. the Republicans have produced a Frankenstein. Now they have to turn to the villagers.

1. You forget that the Tea Party consists of a variety of voters from across the political spectrum. It is said up to 30% of them are disaffected Democrats. So to say that the Republicans “produced a Frankenstein” is not borne out by the facts. Most rank-and-file Republicans have always been somewhat uncomfortable with Sarah Palin, and she is THE Tea Partier par excellence. Many are “coming around” to her now.
2. How do you know they are “corporate sponsored?” If they truly were, you would see a huge portion of the Republican Bigwigs endorsing them and the MSM being more willing to cover them than they have been, given that a huge portion of Big Business is Republican and has major influence on the media (liberal or not). So how do you know?
3. What about the so-called (left-leaning) Coffee Party? Are they “corporate sponsored?”

 

[NotCrazyDan]

Only if you define “pro-life” as a single issue and ignore all those other matters that matter to the lives of people. You know things like Social Security, Medicare, health care**… **

Nothing else even comes close. If you don’t respect the sanctity of life, you can’t possibly respect any other rights. Entitlements are higher than human life? No way.

You think the Dems are conscientious on Social Security and Medicare? They’ve looted both systems to the point of near-insolvency.

 

[NotCrazyDan]

Do you agree with a woman’s right to choose?

What about the baby’s right to live? In what sick decision making process does a baby’s life become sacrificed for whim and convenience?

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

Do you agree with a woman’s right to choose?

WHat do you mean with that remark?

Are you saying Tea Partiers tend to lean Pro-Life?

Probably so. I know of some that are pro-choice, though.

So what is your point?

So if they are not Pro-Choice they are not legitimate?

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

One question is whether the Tea Party-type candidates are likely to be successful against Democrat opponents. It doesn’t seem impossible to me, but I don’t have a crystal ball.

Another is whether it is better or worse for this country that the Republican party seems to be (perforce of force) becoming more conservative.

It seems it could hardly be worse. Right now, the Democrat party has gone so far left (and I think some of that is by force of the power its elites have) that it can no longer be seen due to the curvature of the earth. And it was done purposely. The Democrat officeholders are clearly in the control of those within it who have money and power, and that was amply proved with the health insurance bill, in the course of which people like Blanche Lincoln sat out on a limb and sawed it off themselves rather than defy the Harry Reids, Nancy Pelosis, Barack Obamas and George Soros’. They defied their constituencies instead.

And that hard left monolith had no room for compromise in its mind either. It absolutely blew off Republicans like they weren’t there. Obama pretty much said it all when, in that televised bipartisan conference on the health insurance bill, he reminded McCain that he lost the election. Well, that was “case closed”. If you don’t have power, you have nothing to say.

There’s no “collegiality” in Congress, either. It’s just a war, with no prisoners taken. I suppose some, like Castle, succumbed to the “Stockholm syndrome of politics”; on the side of their enemies without seeming to realize it.

So, what is the country to have then opposing that? A party full of people who are just like the other side; or who will, for some favor or other, allow the opposition to impose on the public whatever it wants?

At minimum, it seems to me that since the battle line has certainly been drawn by the Democrats, it’s hardly odd for those who oppose that left wing steamroller to expect their ostensible partisans to be true believers. Since the Republican party answered that expectation disappointingly to many, and rightly so in many instances, it does not strike me as at all odd that conservative rank and file would like to have a party that actually represents their beliefs.

I’m not a Tea Party person. But it’s refreshing to see people who actually have a consistent set of conservative beliefs, just as I’m sure the far left felt refreshed when Pelosi/Reid/Obama rolled over the Republicans (and public opinion) in the lurch to the left.

Except for O’Donell (who has a very controversial past and record), I think the others have a chance.

As to the rest, I agree with you.

 

[gnjsdad]

You evidenlty have not not heard Paul, Angle, Rubio, Fiorina or Odonnel speak. All of the are loudly and proudly pro-life. Fiorina savaged Boxer over the issue in their debate. And of course you dont like Palin either-another strident pro-lifer

If all of them win, we will still have legal abortion.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

You evidenlty have not not heard Paul, Angle, Rubio, Fiorina or Odonnel speak. All of the are loudly and proudly pro-life. Fiorina savaged Boxer over the issue in their debate. And of course you dont like Palin either-another strident pro-lifer

Quite a brain trust you are touting. I wish you good luck in making them appear to be your everyday type of Americans.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

1. You forget that the Tea Party consists of a variety of voters from across the political spectrum. It is said up to 30% of them are disaffected Democrats. So to say that the Republicans “produced a Frankenstein” is not borne out by the facts. Most rank-and-file Republicans have always been somewhat uncomfortable with Sarah Palin, and she is THE Tea Partier par excellence. Many are “coming around” to her now.
2. How do you know they are “corporate sponsored?” If they truly were, you would see a huge portion of the Republican Bigwigs endorsing them and the MSM being more willing to cover them than they have been, given that a huge portion of Big Business is Republican and has major influence on the media (liberal or not). So how do you know?
3. What about the so-called (left-leaning) Coffee Party? Are they “corporate sponsored?”

Please do your own research. If I do it for you , you won’t believe me anyway. They started out as corporate shills. All expenses paid, and some still are. Somewhere, along the line, they may have morphed into a legitimate grass roots movement…maybe. But because of their origin I have my doubts. I do not doubt they they believe they are a grass roots movement.

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

Quite a brain trust you are touting. I wish you good luck in making them appear to be yorur everyday type of Americans.

You may have a point in a way------

So what is YOUR idea of an “Everyday type of American?”

Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Keith Olbermann, or Joy Behar?

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

Quite a brain trust you are touting. I wish you good luck in making them appear to be your everyday type of Americans.

The sarcastic “brain trust” comment is very condescending and insulting, BTW. So because you disagree with their political and moral stances they are stupid and moronic?

Now, if you dare call Barry “incompetent” or “tone deaf” one is a racist.

Sarah Palin did not go to Harvard so she is a hick.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Thomas Jefferson stated that there should be a revolution every twenty years. What do you have to say about that?

They are not advocating a civil war on a comparative scale (controlling for population and technology) as with what we had in the 1860’s. They simply are stating that if this government is broke, then it’s stated pretty clearly in our own Declaration that:

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

That statement is as true today as it was back in 1776. If we have an oppressive government, then we have full rights to throw away the corrupt, broken system and institute one that will be effective and devoted to serving the people. John Locke may have been dead for centuries, but his ideas sure aren’t. We may not necessarily have to resort to war; a popular movement by the people that is united in finding a better way can and will work, as it has worked in the past. Did the change from the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution involve much bloodshed? Of course not! So why should it now?

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It is for this reason that I consider Thomas Jefferson to be America’s greatest President ever, even topping George Washington. Jefferson was a man of ideas, and a true lover of liberty.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

The sarcastic “brain trust” comment is very condescending and insulting, BTW. So because you disagree with their political and moral stances they are stupid and moronic?

Now, if you dare call Barry “incompetent” or “tone deaf” one is a racist.

Sarah Palin did not go to Harvard so she is a hick.

You are making the arguement, not I.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It is for this reason that I consider Thomas Jefferson to be America’s greatest President ever, even topping George Washington. Jefferson was a man of ideas, and a true lover of liberty.

On a personal level, does the picture of House have to b quite so big? do you think you could shrink it a bit and make the same point? If not, I’ll just live with it, and wish you could do something about it every time I see it.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

On a personal level, does the picture of House have to b quite so big? do you think you could shrink it a bit and make the same point? If not, I’ll just live with it, and wish you could do something about it every time I see it.

I kinda like it this way, precisely for the reason you just mentioned.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

I kinda like it this way, precisely for the reason you just mentioned.

OK. I can live with it. It does seem to me to be an “in your face” graphicl. If you like it, who am I to criticize it.

 

[NotCrazyDan]

Please do your own research. If I do it for you , you won’t believe me anyway. They started out as corporate shills. All expenses paid, and some still are. Somewhere, along the line, they may have morphed into a legitimate grass roots movement…maybe. But because of their origin I have my doubts. I do not doubt they they believe they are a grass roots movement.

You made the assertion, so it’s your point to prove, IF YOU CAN.