Tears of Blood Appear on Virgin Mary Statue

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Yes, I saw the story on the midday news here. Considering the statue is solid and there is nothing overhanging the statue causing something to drip on it and the statue is marble with no metal parts on it, it appears to be the real thing. If so, I’m sure Mary is sending the country a message–of repentance and sorrowful love. Don’t you agree?
 
If authentic,
I would take it as another sign from the blessed Mother that
we all need to pray and do penance.
Love, Jaypeeto3
 
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Della:
Yes, I saw the story on the midday news here. Considering the statue is solid and there is nothing overhanging the statue causing something to drip on it and the statue is marble with no metal parts on it, it appears to be the real thing. If so, I’m sure Mary is sending the country a message–of repentance and sorrowful love. Don’t you agree?
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I’d like to agree.

I wasn’t aware it is a statue of solid marble. I’d think if it were a hoax it would be discoverable as such. Some tampering would be evident. I’d think it would be carefully watched now. If she were to continue to shed tears of blood, it would sure seem miraculous. Especially if the tears are evaluated and are in fact blood.

I hope we hear more.
 
You know, just coming into the church (2004) I just learned through reading a book I just picked up at the library called “Missing Mary” by Charlene Spratnek, that Mary was literally “de-throned” by the Second Vatican Council. The author writes that for centuries, Mary, the Mother of God was a great part of the Mass with prayers being offered to Her (Salve Regina) etc., and that after the Second Vatical Council, there were “progressive modernist” Bishops who thought that the Marian devotions had gone “too far” and took up a vote to remove the Blessed Mother from her pedestal within the church. They won. The author goes on to say that on that day, many Bishops walked away in tears over the majority of votes to have the Blessed Mother de-throned. And, that there are Bishops still arguing over the dogma of the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception, and to have this dogma “reversed” (or whatever that technical word is.)

The author talks about the present religious who were born after VII, and how they literally have no real reverence toward the Blessed Mother and that they refuse to believe that She is our Mediatrix with Her Son. This all basically due to the removal of Marian devotions and spirituality for the past four decades. I was unaware that statues of Mary (and also of the saints), prayers at Mass (the Salve Regina) and other devotions, were removed from the Mass so that there would “not be any confusion as to our beliefs with our Protestant brethren.” I was so dismayed upon reading this.

The author goes on to say that it is now after 40 years after the error put forth by these progessive modernist Bishops at the Vatical Council, that it is Mary Herself, Who is demonstrating by Her appearances all over the world, that She is very much indeed the Mother of this Holy Church.

I believe that phenomena such as this blood teared statue are proof of the heartache brought about by the Church to Her Immaculate Heart.
 
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CindyGia:
You know, just coming into the church (2004) I just learned through reading a book I just picked up at the library called “Missing Mary” by Charlene Spratnek, that Mary was literally “de-throned” by the Second Vatican Council. The author writes that for centuries, Mary, the Mother of God was a great part of the Mass with prayers being offered to Her (Salve Regina) etc., and that after the Second Vatical Council, there were “progressive modernist” Bishops who thought that the Marian devotions had gone “too far” and took up a vote to remove the Blessed Mother from her pedestal within the church. They won. The author goes on to say that on that day, many Bishops walked away in tears over the majority of votes to have the Blessed Mother de-throned. And, that there are Bishops still arguing over the dogma of the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception, and to have this dogma “reversed” (or whatever that technical word is.)

The author talks about the present religious who were born after VII, and how they literally have no real reverence toward the Blessed Mother and that they refuse to believe that She is our Mediatrix with Her Son. This all basically due to the removal of Marian devotions and spirituality for the past four decades. I was unaware that statues of Mary (and also of the saints), prayers at Mass (the Salve Regina) and other devotions, were removed from the Mass so that there would “not be any confusion as to our beliefs with our Protestant brethren.” I was so dismayed upon reading this.

The author goes on to say that it is now after 40 years after the error put forth by these progessive modernist Bishops at the Vatical Council, that it is Mary Herself, Who is demonstrating by Her appearances all over the world, that She is very much indeed the Mother of this Holy Church.

I believe that phenomena such as this blood teared statue are proof of the heartache brought about by the Church to Her Immaculate Heart.
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This is just bomb throwing on the part of the author of the book. Read the documents of Vatican II if you already haven’t.

In the church, the issue of “emphasis” is always a problem. At times some issues recieve attention and others recieve less attention. Those that receive less attention are then viewed by their proponents as being “de-emphasized” and trivialized. Those recieving attention are viewed by their proponents as being the source and summit of all that is good and right and true. Both are wrong, but that is the way things work.

Just a few years before Vatican II, Mary had recieved attention of the highest order in the definition of the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception. The council had little to add at that point in history. The council in no way intended to trivialze Mary.

Beware the mythos of the “Spirit of Vatican II.” Both the progressives and the conservatives spin their own versions tof that mythos.

There is no reversal of dogmas so there is no word for it, technical or otherwise.

Don’t put undue emphasis on any private revelation, and far, far less on unapproved private revelation. Public revelation is where it’s at.
 
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CindyGia:
You know, just coming into the church (2004) I just learned through reading a book I just picked up at the library called “Missing Mary” by Charlene Spratnek.
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This woman’s ideas are a load of poppycock! Vatican II in no way downgraded Mary or set her aside or anything other such thing. Yes, there were bishops and priests, using the catch phrase “the spirit of Vatican II” who wanted to remove all statues and other ornamentation from their parishes with the mistaken idea that that would draw more Protestants in, but it didn’t. All it did was confuse people and set the stage for authors like this one to tickle people’s ears with bogus conspiracy theories and other such nonsense in order to sell their idiotic books.

No dogmas can be “reversed” and never will be no matter how many bishops anyone claims want to do it because the teachings of the Church are eternal truths that cannot be removed, reversed or destroyed. And the title of Mediatrix is not a formal title for Mary, but a pious one that has not yet gained the status of doctrine or dogma, so those who don’t want to use this title for her do not have to, although there is nothing wrong with it and many popes and saints have addressed Mary with this title.

Instead of reading this sort of trash, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which talks a great deal about Our Blessed Mother’s place in the life of the Church. In no way is she neglected no ignored or dishonored there.
 
Like I said, I’m basically a new Catholic. And I’ve read the Catechism, or most of it. In RCIA it was given to us.

The reason I started reading this book is because the parish my sister attends in upstate New York does not pray the “Hail Mary” after the Intercessory Prayers, and that my sister has been ridiculed by the deason of her parish because she is devoted to the Blessed Mother. He has made a statement somewhat to the extent as to say “that is sooooo “old” world marian! We don’t do that anymore!” Which is why I happened to see this book at the library and took it out.

This author by the way, teaches at a Catholic University in California. She has helped many young people and new nuns come to love our Blessed Mother because they had absolutely no reverence for her due to the SVII.
 
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Della:
This woman’s ideas are a load of poppycock! Vatican II in no way downgraded Mary or set her aside or anything other such thing.
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I spoke with a friend of mine who is a 45 year old cradle catholic who owns a Catholic bookstore. She told me that it is absolutely true that SVII de-throned Mary because the church was afraid the faithful were looking at Mary now as a Goddess - and She had to be “done away” with.

This coming from someone who has lived through it and had to deal with these drastic changes that took place in the church. She said it was awful when they started removing the statues of Mary from the parishes.
 
Hmm, all I can ask is… how are we positive Mary has really earned all these titles? Like Mediatrix, Dispenser of Graces, etc. Could someone point me out to a thread that explains this, because I’m well aware it’s a bit off-topic 😉

As for the statue… eh. You can be skeptical or believe it, I suppose, it’s entirely possible it’s real or a prank. Aren’t these kind of things relatively common?
 
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quasimodo:
Don’t put undue emphasis on any private revelation, and far, far less on unapproved private revelation. Public revelation is where it’s at.
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The author did not have “private revelations.” She had an awakening spiritual experience due to the Blessed Mother. She did not have visions, locutions, etc. She had a spiritual awakening when her daughter was dying in the hospital which gave her a new hope, which she credits the Blessed Mother for giving her.
 
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Peace_Seeker:
Hmm, all I can ask is… how are we positive Mary has really earned all these titles? Like Mediatrix, Dispenser of Graces, etc. Could someone point me out to a thread that explains this, because I’m well aware it’s a bit off-topic 😉

As for the statue… eh. You can be skeptical or believe it, I suppose, it’s entirely possible it’s real or a prank. Aren’t these kind of things relatively common?
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From the Catechism - well after VII.

. . . she is our Mother in the order of grace

967 By her complete adherence to the Father’s will, to his Son’s redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church’s model of faith and charity. Thus she is a “preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church”; indeed, she is the “exemplary realization” (typus)510 of the Church.

968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior’s work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."511

** 969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."512**

970 "Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it."513 "No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."514
 
Thank you very much for an excerpt from the Catechism 🙂 That makes it easier to comprehend.
 
This is happening in my area, so it is all over the news. I don’t really care if it is real or a prank, I am so sick of the news and their condescending attitude. I was speaking with my husband about it last night. We were saying that if Catholics believe the Eucharist is what we say it is, then why are people making such a big deal about a statue? I get Jesus in the Eucharist every sunday or at daily mass and that is more fascinating to me. I think that in this area there are a lot of people who DO put too much importance on Mary and she is all they ever talk about. That is why all the antiCatholics think we worship her. I won’t be driving there to see the statue and frankly I can’t wait till its off the news.
 
I can gurantee you that this person has no rememberence of PRE vat II. My priest is 53 years old and he doesn’t even remember much of anything pre vat II. I am 40 years old, I find it very very hard to believe that someone 45 years old claims to have memories of living through the council. THis person was 5 years old when the coucil convened.
 
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beckyann2597:
I won’t be driving there to see the statue and frankly I can’t wait till its off the news.
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All along I was hoping that someone from the area would drive there and come back to CAForums and chime in.

You are not what I expecting to hear. Too bad. I will keep my hopes up that someone will drive there to see.

When I was a girl…oh maybe 10 or 12 I don’t remember now. There was a news story of apparitions on a tabernacle cloth in a small rural church in PA.

I insisted that my father drive me there. It was a full day trip going to and from. When I arrived at my destination, I was surprised by the antiquity and smallness of the church…so close to the road on top of a hill…it was so absolutely tiny. I knelt at the Blessed Sacrament and saw what I had hoped to see.

Perhaps in time you will soften and be less bitter of things and people you don’t understand.
 
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decn2b:
I can gurantee you that this person has no rememberence of PRE vat II. My priest is 53 years old and he doesn’t even remember much of anything pre vat II. I am 40 years old, I find it very very hard to believe that someone 45 years old claims to have memories of living through the council. THis person was 5 years old when the coucil convened.
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haha - simple math conquers all. I tell ya - I’m a non-Catholic and believe the Marian dogmas. It’s not that difficult to believe that Mary is all the CC claims she is. It took me a while to come to that conclusion, but even as a non-Catholic I believe those things!!

I feel sorry for the Catholics that don’t see how important Mary is to Christendom. There are some who take Marian devotion too far, but based on the replies I see here - I’d say that is not the case for Catholics on this forum.

Peace…
 
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beckyann2597:
This is happening in my area, so it is all over the news. I don’t really care if it is real or a prank, I am so sick of the news and their condescending attitude. I was speaking with my husband about it last night. We were saying that if Catholics believe the Eucharist is what we say it is, then why are people making such a big deal about a statue? I get Jesus in the Eucharist every sunday or at daily mass and that is more fascinating to me. I think that in this area there are a lot of people who DO put too much importance on Mary and she is all they ever talk about. That is why all the antiCatholics think we worship her. I won’t be driving there to see the statue and frankly I can’t wait till its off the news.
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The fallacy of protestant thinking about Mary is one thing. They just don’t understand the teachings. For Catholics to not venerate her and honor her as everything she is seems really deplorable to me. Some may take it too far, but at least - at LEAST they have their heart in the right place. The same can’t be said for Catholics who under-appreciate the Mother of God.

Peace…
 
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CindyGia:
This just forwarded to me from the Carmelite Monastery in Salt Lake Utah. It’s quite interesting if you haven’t seen the story yet.

Here is the link:

cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_326014939.html
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Thanks for this story. The man who does maintenance for the church said that at about 8:30 am he saw the tears going down her cheeks and they were wet. The priest of the church wiped away the tears the first day thinking it could be pranksters, but then obviously they re-appeared and the diocese is investigating. I think we are in a critical time in history and need mother Mary’s help. This is indeed a sign from her.

Peace…
 
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