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GaryTaylor
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Front page of the NY-Post… “Hoosier Daddy”
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Catholic_farmer
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Looks like we have two Democrats to choose from.
Too bad the modern version of Democrats opposes Catholic teachings. It wasn’t always that way. Catholics have been in a tough spot from Kennedy’s time. It’s the evangelicals that are hurting the most now. They solidly aligned themselves with Republicans, and due to Trump’s flip-flopping about like a fish out of water when it comes to issues important to them.such as abortion and religious freedom, they are the ones now left homeless.
Catholics have been homeless for much longer because our bishops have been raising concerns about not just abortion, but social issues as well. We’ve had a safe choice in Republicans for several election cycles, but not anymore. Not quite so earth-shattering to us as to evangelicals. Christians should have never been associated with only one party. We should have been criticizing all candidates, regardless of party, when they opposed our teachings. Evangelicals, and many Catholics, made a big mistake by aligning with one side.
I will concentrate on local elections and skip the presidential vote. A vote for either will not be pro-choice this cycle.
Too bad the modern version of Democrats opposes Catholic teachings. It wasn’t always that way. Catholics have been in a tough spot from Kennedy’s time. It’s the evangelicals that are hurting the most now. They solidly aligned themselves with Republicans, and due to Trump’s flip-flopping about like a fish out of water when it comes to issues important to them.such as abortion and religious freedom, they are the ones now left homeless.
Catholics have been homeless for much longer because our bishops have been raising concerns about not just abortion, but social issues as well. We’ve had a safe choice in Republicans for several election cycles, but not anymore. Not quite so earth-shattering to us as to evangelicals. Christians should have never been associated with only one party. We should have been criticizing all candidates, regardless of party, when they opposed our teachings. Evangelicals, and many Catholics, made a big mistake by aligning with one side.
I will concentrate on local elections and skip the presidential vote. A vote for either will not be pro-choice this cycle.
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GaryTaylor
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Trump is conservative and Newt spoke on the very topic last night. Probably be worth a google and read,
thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/01/Newt-Gingrich-Wake-Republicans-It-s-Either-Trump-or-Clinton
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Memaw
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I agree 100% and I am afraid more damage will be done to our country no matter who wins now. My heart tells me I don’t want to even vote, but my head tells me I have to. God have MERCY on us. God Bless, Memaw
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Memaw
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We are now between a rock and a hard place and I hate to even vote. God help us. God Bless, Memaw
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_Abyssinia
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What do you think about this?
edition.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-poll-general-election/
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GaryTaylor
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I understand the concern and fear believe me when I tell you, its quite normal as we see.
Over 60% of the population wasn’t interested in electing an insider of DC. All that really happened is the peoples will is becoming a reality. The variable is if DT self destructs but nothing indicates this as anything he has done has increased his following.
Newt is right above over 90% Rep and 83% Democrats view the economy as the top priority. Which is indicative of the bs being fed by the Obama administration. Even the Democrats don’t believe it. Most important is National Security and foreign policy a complete disaster of Obama and more promised with Hillary just look as Libya.
Further Trumps American nationalism is a refreshing aspect compared to Obama and Hillary who basically think America ought to be in the butt kissing business to the entire world such as Iran. From the Indian wars up till today they are depressing to listen to and akin to having traitors for leaders. The PC leftist conversation died in 2016, thats the most nonsensical immature conversation anyone heard in the past few years. Look at the college campuses across the nation. Even Hillary can’t fit into the cage of PC dialogue built by the Democrats all on account of IslamOphobia a Muslim Brotherhood agenda. Complete double standards while calling the rep terrorists and equating them to Islamic radicals that they don’t think should be called Islamic radicals? Not very sensible. DT is for christian faith and religious liberty which Obama and Hillary have done nothing but assaulted and contend to do so further as we witnessed with the Sisters of the Poor for no good reason but to oppress religion.
Its time for change and thats what people want and in both parties as Hillary is a seriously fractured candidate who has no concern about unity.
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Yeoman
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I’ve been worried about that, but I don’t think that will occur. What I do think will occur, and is already occurring if you listen to traditional conservatives, is that the party is starting to remake it and will do so. It’ll emerge more Reganite than it is now and some of the factions that have developed will no longer, as those elements will basically be purged. Already the elements in the party that developed both the Cruz and Trump base are being blamed for the inevitable fall defeat and when a candidate runs in 2020 he will be more of a Reaganite and not from the Trump/Cruz wing of the party. My guess is that Cruz is effectively finished as a power in the GOP and that Trump’s legacy will be non existent. As part of that the party emerges isn’t going to be as hard right wing on quite a few things, including, like it or not, immigration, climate change, and national health care of some sort. It just isn’t going to be. Tea Party elements will be out in addition.
I can already feel the hackles raising on the backs of Trump supporters but that’s my prediction, and I live in a heavily GOP state. Even in my state the old Republicans, and they are hardly the establishment, have given up hope and didn’t really support Cruz or Trump.
The GOP has been through this twice before, fwiw. Once in 1912 and once in 1964. Each time it remade itself are reemerged. The 1912 Roosevelt/Taft split ended up expelling the “Progressive” wing of the party and a conservative party emerged. The 1964 race of Goldwater ended up wiping out the conservative brand that had lingered from the Depression and which contested with a more Buckley like intellectual conservatism, the latter of which won out. This race has elements of both, but I think the 1912 race is particularly significant as I think a minority of the party (which is what Roosevelt’s Progressives were) has taken the race but is doomed in the fall, which will result in a lot of house cleaning and a different party to come back to, which will be purged of a lot of elements that the GOP has dangerously courted since Reagan but which it has also consistently ignored, leading to what is likely to be the biggest elector disaster since 64.
And with that, conservatives have now lost the Supreme Court for at least a decade, if not longer. The repercussions of this will be enormous, and largely bad.
Sic transit gloria mundi.
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GaryTaylor
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Few points actually, first I think we are only at the onset of general election polling so its early for sure. Also…
This is what I mentioned above, its true with both parties the concern is the economy which was polled last night. Terrorism most of us simply disagree with the Democrats and feel national security is at risk which leads to the immigration issue which DT will have to elaborate on since deporting children and so forth isn’t realistic. Foreign policy is a complete disaster for the Democrats, its not even a talking point for them. Climate change I think is an area both parties can work on but to me they present a double standard with Hillary and fracking, or as we seen in WV with coal or with the water issues which by large is happening on their watch. But I think its a give we need to pay attention to our responsibility as keepers of our planet.
As far as favorable, to me the difference is Trump can address this and change minds, the only question is how effectively will he. Hillary and her integrity issue is in stone and will always be there imo. I don’t see this changing no matter what.
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Yeoman
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I’ve given some thought to that as well.I think I’m leaving.. Back to being an independent.
I’ll be frank that I was a Democrat back when there were Reagan Democrats. The party in my state was a conservative party but was concerned with blue collar issues.
I left the party when it became the party of death and opposed nature in all its forms, which is what it is today. There are no genders, there is no real marriage, etc. As a Catholic, I felt I could no longer morally be in the party and that further personally I couldn’t be in the party.
I then registered independent.
But like a lot of Democrats here, I then became a Republican. I’ve even been asked by the GOP if I’d entertain running at a local level for something.
But over the last four years I’ve watched the GOP here go from a conservative party to having really radical and unrealistic Tea Party elements. Some of those elements worship an imaginary Constitution. They’ve taken a run at the GOP governor for no sane reason. They’ve backed radical propositions that would hurt average people in my state. The old GOP hung on and I’ve hung on with them. Recently, I’ve noticed smart GOP candidates started to walk away from those elements, and I see some hope in that.
I’ll stick with the GOP right now, but for me the current crisis is the fall. I found Cruz, frankly, totally unworkable based on something he said while campaigning here and I would have preferred Trump over him as a result, but that doesn’t mean I favor Trump as I know that this choice is completely fatal to the GOP’s chances in the fall. For folks like me, its frustrating to see what is an obvious political suicide just as it must be frustrating for Trump supporters to hear that the majority of the GOP doesn’t support Trump, that most Americans register as Democrats, that more women vote than men, and all that means that Trump is completely un-electable. It just won’t happen.
But I don’t think that means this unrealistic view defines the party. . . or that it will after the fall. The U.S. needs a conservative party and the GOP is it. It’s gone through this before, and it’ll be reforming after the fall disaster.
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Yeoman
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Interesting, but remember that elections are dynamic. Clinton has been pulled to the left by a Sanders who has run well (and who still has an off chance) while the GOP has been pulled apart.
I know that people cite to Clinton’s dislikability, but I don’t think people realize the degree that Trump is abhorrent to many Republicans. No Republican nominee can win without Democratic votes. A lot of Republicans now are going to vote for Clinton. This isn’t a fantasy, I’m hearing open pondering of it.
And the fact that Sanders has stayed in, and pulled Clinton to the left, means when she is elected in the fall, she will be far to the left of President Obama. The Democrats may have been on both sides of some of these issues, but they won’t be then. We will have a genuinely liberal administration for at least one term.
The real question is to what extent Clinton remakes the country in a leftward manner. Some Presidents have an impact like that, some not. FDR, for example, remade the country into something politically new. Theodore Roosevelt did as well. I don’t see Clinton doing that, but I to think by the end of her four years we will have a completely, irreversibly, left wing Supreme Court.
That will be a moral and political disaster, and we will not recover from that change ever. Those who saw that coming, by the GOP extremism, when Clinton would have been so easy to pick off, will blame the radical edge of the GOP this go around, and justifiably. There’s no way a Senate can sit on the Supreme Court nominations for four years, and there was no hope of Cruz or Trump being elected. We will have to live with that.
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Finite
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On one hand, good riddance. I’ve never supported Cruz. But I detest Trump. I’ll be holding my nose and voting Clinton unless Kasich miraculously becomes the nominee. Republicans made a big mistake not getting behind Kasich.
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GaryTaylor
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Well I can relate to your story as I use to campaign for the Democrats and a few of them are very close friends. But this I disagree with …
The idea he is completely unelectable is verified as untrue just by the phenom of this election. And with 17 other candidates. Be much easier to make that statement and prove it with Hillary with what appeared to be a one person coronation from the start till the gripes about Hillary breathed life into Bernie. Bernie is popular because of Hillary being unpopular and no other reason.
In my view anyway.
Trump has the majority of support from the GOP and frankly some democrats also. His numbers in voter turnout are on course to break the record. When we say more women vote, actually younger women voting is an issue for the democrats and married women favor the republican party. This is an issue anyway since Hillary is an advocate for women so naturally this should favor her. But its a matter of gaining votes where possible. Same with other areas of the democrats such as the black community. You simply have to have a real desire to unite the country and it can be done for the simple reason a good deal of these peoples are blue collar workers and they are affected by the economy. There’s only one color we all understand and thats green. It was crystal clear last night in the polling-all worry about the economy, number one issue.
The idea he is completely unelectable is verified as untrue just by the phenom of this election. And with 17 other candidates. Be much easier to make that statement and prove it with Hillary with what appeared to be a one person coronation from the start till the gripes about Hillary breathed life into Bernie. Bernie is popular because of Hillary being unpopular and no other reason.
In my view anyway.
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GaryTaylor
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Oh and as far as the statistic there are more democrats which is true by 9%. Whats not true is more democrats turn out to vote. Look at the statistics of the percentage of either party who turn out to vote and then compare that to this primary season? There really is no issue. The democrats lets face it simply are not going to receive the voter turnout for Hillary as they did for Obama. Look at the midterms as an indicator. 
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GaryTaylor
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Right she has no choice but to lean left and probably till Calif, how much it effects her movement back to the middle remains to be seen. The GOP is no more pulled apart than say it was with McCain when 40% stated they would never vote for anyone else or with Obama/Clinton with the Demos in 08. Much of this a status quo in the election process. But the issue became not having a GOP insider again or a perceived radical as Cruz who really I like but he’s alarming in Congress.
Actually is reported the opposite, Democrats have been voting for Trump and he is above 73% of the Rep party. Mitt had 93% and lost but had zero democrat support so theres still work no denying this but its a plausible path. Positive attitude and much work!
I don’t know, I have real problems with Hillary, grew up in a military family, served and have a good deal of family in the police area. I honestly believe Hillary isn’t gonna make it to the election. At the end of the day I believe good and justice has the final say as much as I could be liberal myself in thinking, I don’t see her skating. Call it misplaced faith but I don’t think so. But all parties re-unite, if this happens with the Democrats you have disaster and possibly a new party as a result. The GOP is re adjusting right now.
Oh, we are playing for all marbles this time so to speak, I agree. But I don’t see Tea party of GOP extremism, in fact that would have been the case with Cruz. Trump is at the end of the day practical imo.
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mary_bobo
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Interesting article. I am not convinced that Trump is a conservative, but I certainly don’t want to support Hillary in any way. I hope more Republicans come to that conclusion.
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Monte_RCMS
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On the plus side, does Congress have the authority to provide the “advice and consent” to install Mr. Cruz to fill the current vacancy on the Supreme Court?
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DeniseNY
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I supported Bill, I’m ashamed to admit. There’s no way in hell I could support either Hillary or Sanders. Cruz was my choice but now I have to go with Kasich.
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chero23
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I hope Cruz has some respect and declines the VP if he is nominated. After what Trump said about his wife and dad. I couldn’t be on the same boat with a person who spoke against my family.
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chero23
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But Trump said Carson was not a true bc he is SDA.I keep hearing that yet everytime i turn on the TV, there he is being disingenuous again.
To me, he hardly projects a image of a true Christian. Dr. Carson, OTOH certainly did. Too bad Cruz sandbagged him.
Good riddance to Cruz. He is a bright and talented conservative. He just needs to stop lying all the time and I could see him being the nominee in the future.
Unfortunately i care not for either Trump or Hillary
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